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explode the bazaars or e-ticket ride

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into the world of the paranoid

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strap yourself e'en as we traverse the

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universe exploring the unexplained UFO s

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ghosts Lost Worlds

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cryptozoology waters as well as other

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dimensions it's time to take back the

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NASA night

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now your electrifying hosts of exploring

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the bizarre Timothy Begley and team

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sports photos

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I'm sure Oh are these are these family

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shots your grandparents cousins is this

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your family tree oh no not at all

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something downright spooky and weird oh

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yeah

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what is it it's photos of spirits of the

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Dead ghost people have gone beyond the

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pale well I thought all those pictures

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from the ages of spiritualism were just

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proven to be fake you know bloaty

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oh I can see you were a fan of Houdini

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that's not true at all they could be the

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real thing and I think one of our guests

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will try to prove it this evening oh wow

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wait a minute there's my aunt Seeley

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that sure looks like her but she's been

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passed over for over 50 years now there

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you go

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see I told you there was something to

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this how you out there ingest but oh

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well it's a it's another beautiful

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evening in Jasper that kids went off to

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school for the first time today so all

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is good in my world isn't it true that

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the Brady Bunch live next door to you I

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I don't I don't think they could handle

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the likes of our family oh boy well I'm

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I don't know I don't know I hear their

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house went for what several million

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dollars yeah yeah well HGTV bought it

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all right the cable network yeah yeah

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yeah well the kiss just go Sakuya

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there's something in a name just like

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our name your name in my name I'm sure

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we could get a couple of million dollars

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for use of our name right then yeah sure

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I'm waiting for that well you know you

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know for this chatter chatter chatter

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because we want to bring our guest on

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right away because it gets it very

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interesting things to say and I'm

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looking forward to talking personally

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when you're in silly pants ceiling yeah

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Oh silly silly anyway what did you tell

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our our audience who were going to be

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speaking with it oh well be my pleasure

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well we've got a couple of great guests

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tonight first of all we have Daryl

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now daryl is a photographer who grew up

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listening to his mother and her sisters

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talk about seeing the apparation

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of their deceased brother so now we got

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to find out about that story so

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obviously there was you know something

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wasn't until Daryl was about 19 years

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old and living in Bethel Ohio that he

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bedroom and approached him he said that

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disappeared how weird is that

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lady were bad evening while watching

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haunted by the little girl until they

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eight years ghost-hunting and we'll

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part of me so now also with us tonight

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world he's a word he says but accurate

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almost in spa impossible now Dean says

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understanding that these things do exist

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the likelihood of that existence he uses

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hunting techniques to find or bring to

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what it is that goes bump in the night

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our Dean says that a person can ask for

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help and that he has a network of people

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who deal in the paranormal globally so

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do you want to start with here do I

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start with a Darryl Tim I think that

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you remember and what was going on with

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what they were seeing or did they tell

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that they were in bed at night and their

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deceased brother had walked into their

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transparent and they saw him several

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they were in their teens and when they

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saw it actually that had to have been

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pretty freaky for him well yeah I would

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apparition I just didn't know what to do

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buckling that's the first time I've ever

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experienced anything like that and I

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me out and I could I could sense that

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know doing that and she turned around

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and walked away so I never said anything

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to anyone and my ex-girlfriend that we

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my girlfriend's she just she just went

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all to pieces but it wasn't very long

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part of the family and I'll tell you

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what to this day 38 years later I miss

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her and I would love to see her again

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was all the time and she was just a

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normal playful little kid but she could

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but but that happened for five years and

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you I miss her boy would I love to see

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her again well what kind of place were

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house or what it was an old early 1900

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history on that place I don't know if

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there or spirits they can be in and

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if I can go back to Bethel Ohio and

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spend a couple nights in that apartment

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just to see if I can film her and talk

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to her and see what I can get if I knew

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ghost hunting oh man there's no doubt

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is yes it is okay now was it because of

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this experience is that what got you

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interested in the paranormal yes it is

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after she had left out of our lives I

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knew that there was other spirits out

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there and I was going to search high low

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for the next full apparition and I've

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come close I've come close to filling a

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mok's in southern Texas I see I see

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actually spirits and orbs flying through

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the air now my partner

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hospital she and I have been doing this

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together she's been doing this now for a

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year and a couple months and she's a big

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part of this ghost hunting expedition up

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here in Chicago a lot of the pictures

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that we've taken and that's in some of

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our books came from her and she's we've

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been out the cemeteries the cold and the

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zero degree weather go sunning and she's

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a real she's a real trooper and I just

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got to thank her and her efforts in

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hunting with me but it's just amazing

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that the spirits that we have found now

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we have honestly now this might sound

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crazy but we feel like there's this one

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cemetery that we go to we feel like the

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spirits there are our friends now it

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might sound crazy we have got okay where

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the cemetery is is about five minutes

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so we visit it all the time and I know

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for a fact as I'm sitting here that we

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have visited that cemetery over 300

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times that's a fact and we have gotten

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to where we can say hit you'll hit the

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back of the car do whatever and they

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will do it we we speak to them just like

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I'm talking to the audience right now

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mm-hmm

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they they respond they are not they are

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not dumb they are very smart individuals

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we've we've heard a woman talk in the

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front seat right in between us we have

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seen light shows out there there's just

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just out of this world the smoke the the

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spirit smoke we have so much of that in

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pictures that it's just it's just it's

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just unbelievable and we we really have

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a rapport with these spirits and I

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believe if you are in the paranormal

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ghosts any it is imperative to actually

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friend these people if you can you will

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absolutely and I'm telling you you will

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absolutely get positive results if you

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do that I guess I always figured that

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cemeteries would be the least haunted of

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locations you know I mean I would

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understand you know locations where

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maybe somebody had an emotional

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attachment you you know or or you know

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maybe a place where somebody died

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unpleasantly like that yeah you know I

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mean I wouldn't think that you know

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people would be spending a lot of time

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hanging around where where their body

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thought about that you know when I first

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started in this but there are so many

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now st. Augustine Florida is another

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place that's very haunted 1565 is or it

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was founded and it's just amazing that

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this the spirit world is just just

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absolutely just crazy there especially

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in the yeah isn't there an old hotel

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there that's

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I think I was there years ago it's

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painted think you don't know yeah yes

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yes yes that that's very haunted and and

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the st. Augustine lighthouse is another

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one that's haunted

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I have taken a EVPs there and EMF

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readings and they just spiked off the

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charts you know down in the basement of

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the lighthouse and they're in the bottom

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of well it's a long area or a cannon is

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I have been attacked three times three

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different places three different times

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there and it would act actually get on

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top of my back and just seemed like it

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was choking me to death it was it was

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driving the air out of my lungs and I

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would have to leave out of that area to

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regain composure there there's something

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in there that just isn't right but now

300
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why do you think that you were attacked

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like that you know I really don't know I

302
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have been trying to talk to it take

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pictures and all three times that I

304
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would go there it would just get on my

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back and just just trying to drive the

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air right out of it now I don't know if

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anyone else has had that experience

308
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there but something just is something is

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just very heavy there that it's just

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there's just not right now how many

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would you say I mean you've been

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involved in a lot of cases how many

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cases would you say are are benevolent

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ghosts and others that are like this one

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I mean outside of poltergeist cases we

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don't hear about too many cases I mean

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the overly majority of them just seem to

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be either wandering spirits or something

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exists in another dimension or parallel

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universe or however you want to explain

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the phenomena that one in the st.

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Augustine Florida and there was one

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other and that was here in Chicago

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probably six months ago or so we were

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out in the cemetery

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and something just didn't seem right I

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was apprehensive of going into a certain

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area and I drove around for a while it's

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a every time I go by there something new

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just about make me sick to my stomach

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and I'm I said to myself okay you are an

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investigator of the paranormal you got

333
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to get your butt out there and see what

334
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it is well I made myself go out there

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and there were some dark entities out

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there and one actually followed us home

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and I was cooking one night and

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something just made me stab myself on

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the friggin hand a couple times and I

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still got the scar in my hand I mean it

341
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just just made me take my hand just just

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stab myself and so Linda and myself we

343
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got together and we made it we made it

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leave we got in the car and we told it

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you've got to get out of here you're not

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wanted you've got to get out of our

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lives so we did go back to the cemetery

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and it did leave and we never had any

349
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more problems with that at all but I was

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talking to a lady see she is going to be

351
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a client and she has paranormal

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activities she has poltergeist

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activities and she's experiencing some

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of the things

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that I have and I I keep holy water with

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me at all times and I told her I said

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you know maybe keeping some holy water

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around and just forcing it around you

359
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know when these things happen

360
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might help either that you might need to

361
00:21:03,289 --> 00:21:01,200
get a priest or something and well how

362
00:21:09,019 --> 00:21:03,299
do you how do you know it's dark energy

363
00:21:14,950 --> 00:21:09,029
I can see it I could lend in myself we

364
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can actually see the spirits we can see

365
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the ghosts that's how come we have

366
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hundreds of pictures of ghosts and

367
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Stroke a smoke is because we can see it

368
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and I see dark energy quite a bit not

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only out in the cemetery but other

370
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places and I can actually see the the

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the entity itself and I try my best to

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00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:46,940
keep away from it and you know I keep

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the holy water with me that I get a

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local Catholic Church and so far go

375
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ahead

376
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well I I just have to able to answer

377
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question if I'm a spirit why do I want

378
00:22:06,139 --> 00:22:05,340
to want a cemetery you know that's a

379
00:22:18,169 --> 00:22:06,149
good question

380
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of course it is about answering it I'm

381
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gonna play the dumb person I really

382
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don't know but I know I know I've found

383
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more entities in most cemeteries and I

384
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do that most haunted forts haunted

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hotels places that are known haunted the

386
00:22:46,609 --> 00:22:43,679
most haunted place I ever visited

387
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they had like hundreds of EVPs in there

388
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was a bordello and I can't remember the

389
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name of the

390
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we shot a segment of UFOs in the town

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which had nothing to do with the

392
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bordello but they had more EVP and the

393
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woman stay there for an hour who was

394
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running Li I say - recreated the you

395
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know the hotel going back to the day you

396
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:14,430
know 18 40 50 whatever it was and I mean

397
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and unless the EVPs were all hoax then I

398
00:23:22,220 --> 00:23:19,830
don't see why it if you got a hoax an

399
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EVP maybe do one or two you're not going

400
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to come out with a you know why isn't I

401
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spend all the time they do does is it

402
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does very very spooky I don't know down

403
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upstairs and said bordello downstairs

404
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there's a bakery yeah well we've got

405
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:35,370
we've got our own EVPs coming up here in

406
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just a few seconds so we'll go to our

407
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break and we'll be back with more

408
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now back to exploring the bazaars with

409
00:23:55,820 --> 00:23:52,530
two of the most electrifying researchers

410
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in the Paranoid your hosts Timothy Becky

411
00:24:05,300 --> 00:24:02,970
Lee panting swoops and welcome back to

412
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exploring the bazaar tonight we're

413
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:08,450
talking about ghost hunting and

414
00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:11,250
paranormal photography I know that's

415
00:24:17,510 --> 00:24:14,000
something that I've been fascinated with

416
00:24:20,750 --> 00:24:17,520
for quite a long time I know I've told

417
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:20,760
Tim before my own experience when I

418
00:24:27,980 --> 00:24:24,570
tried to use a video camera years and

419
00:24:33,340 --> 00:24:27,990
years ago to interview some people at a

420
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:33,350
poltergeist haunting the batteries just

421
00:24:37,610 --> 00:24:36,210
drained in an instance and you know of

422
00:24:42,110 --> 00:24:37,620
course at that time that would have been

423
00:24:44,810 --> 00:24:42,120
mm the early 1980s nobody really knew

424
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:44,820
about that kind of phenomena but I tell

425
00:24:50,750 --> 00:24:47,250
you it was really disappointed when that

426
00:24:52,850 --> 00:24:50,760
happen but we're gonna bring D night the

427
00:24:54,860 --> 00:24:52,860
kentucky ghost hunter into the

428
00:25:00,290 --> 00:24:54,870
conversation now so i dean how you doing

429
00:25:03,470 --> 00:25:00,300
tonight pretty good what you know I just

430
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:03,480
want to say before we get on with the

431
00:25:10,610 --> 00:25:06,810
interview my family at least my on my

432
00:25:12,530 --> 00:25:10,620
father's side was from Kentucky from the

433
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:12,540
show we go I don't know how close that

434
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:16,410
is where you are but my grandfather had

435
00:25:24,530 --> 00:25:21,090
a an experience apparently behind the

436
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:24,540
barn and he never told he only talked

437
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:27,410
about this once and then he refused to

438
00:25:37,550 --> 00:25:33,450
discuss the subject again he was a very

439
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:37,560
devout Baptist then factors as a rule

440
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:40,770
don't believe in ghosts and if they do

441
00:25:45,860 --> 00:25:42,690
believe in spirits well then they have

442
00:25:49,670 --> 00:25:45,870
to be usually demonic and in nature

443
00:25:53,210 --> 00:25:49,680
anyway he was behind the bar one evening

444
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:53,220
as I understand it and he ran into or

445
00:25:59,150 --> 00:25:55,650
maybe he was almost run into by

446
00:26:02,060 --> 00:25:59,160
a headless horseman in fact I want to

447
00:26:04,250 --> 00:26:02,070
ask you there are any number of cases

448
00:26:06,820 --> 00:26:04,260
involving headless horseman why they

449
00:26:09,470 --> 00:26:06,830
seem to pop up from time to time now I

450
00:26:11,660 --> 00:26:09,480
understand in this particular incident

451
00:26:13,940 --> 00:26:11,670
involving my grandfather that there had

452
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:13,950
been a skirmish between the north and

453
00:26:19,940 --> 00:26:16,410
the south there and apparently the

454
00:26:23,630 --> 00:26:19,950
skirmish had that the soldiers had had

455
00:26:25,460 --> 00:26:23,640
been blown off by a cannonball anyway

456
00:26:27,530 --> 00:26:25,470
that's the story he never talked about

457
00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:27,540
it I never talked to him directly that

458
00:26:34,820 --> 00:26:29,760
was just word of mouth that was passed

459
00:26:38,090 --> 00:26:34,830
down tree yeah yeah that's a good story

460
00:26:41,210 --> 00:26:38,100
though the way it is indeed any anyway

461
00:26:44,510 --> 00:26:41,220
why don't you tell us how did you get

462
00:26:46,490 --> 00:26:44,520
involved in all of this and ghost

463
00:26:47,930 --> 00:26:46,500
hunting and what's the difference

464
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:47,940
between the Kentucky ghosts that are

465
00:26:53,780 --> 00:26:50,490
vetti and anybody else from Ohio or

466
00:26:55,370 --> 00:26:53,790
Pennsylvania well from what I understand

467
00:27:00,680 --> 00:26:55,380
it's just a good name Kentucky ghost

468
00:27:04,460 --> 00:27:00,690
honor I'm about like it is but I guess

469
00:27:06,350 --> 00:27:04,470
it was back in 1999 I got involved in

470
00:27:08,570 --> 00:27:06,360
ghost I was kind of by accident somebody

471
00:27:11,090 --> 00:27:08,580
asked me to go out with him to cemetery

472
00:27:13,790 --> 00:27:11,100
and Mammoth Cave and take some pictures

473
00:27:15,050 --> 00:27:13,800
of a cemetery out there and we went out

474
00:27:17,210 --> 00:27:15,060
there and were goofing off for a while

475
00:27:20,660 --> 00:27:17,220
and we caught caught some what they call

476
00:27:22,570 --> 00:27:20,670
orbs and at first we didn't really know

477
00:27:24,950 --> 00:27:22,580
what they were I just thought it was

478
00:27:25,940 --> 00:27:24,960
basically water drops or bugs or

479
00:27:28,490 --> 00:27:25,950
something like that that we took a

480
00:27:30,290 --> 00:27:28,500
picture of and lo and behold we sent it

481
00:27:31,550 --> 00:27:30,300
to a professional photographer expert

482
00:27:33,140 --> 00:27:31,560
and he came back saying he didn't know

483
00:27:37,430 --> 00:27:33,150
what it was and he blew it up and it was

484
00:27:38,510 --> 00:27:37,440
a it was a funny looking I guess the

485
00:27:40,130 --> 00:27:38,520
best way to describe it looked like a

486
00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:40,140
flower floating in the air once you blew

487
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:42,960
it up except it was neon green and that

488
00:27:48,260 --> 00:27:45,210
was my first official experience with an

489
00:27:50,150 --> 00:27:48,270
orb and since then I've been just doing

490
00:27:51,590 --> 00:27:50,160
some different things and somebody said

491
00:27:52,940 --> 00:27:51,600
hey you're from Kentucky near a ghost

492
00:27:54,410 --> 00:27:52,950
town you must be the Kentucky ghost

493
00:27:58,190 --> 00:27:54,420
owner and ever since then the name just

494
00:28:01,070 --> 00:27:58,200
stuck with me and it's 2018 I'm still

495
00:28:04,220 --> 00:28:01,080
going strong hunting ghosts and how many

496
00:28:07,190 --> 00:28:04,230
ghosts have you hunted probably quite a

497
00:28:08,150 --> 00:28:07,200
bit I guess my experience has have been

498
00:28:09,230 --> 00:28:08,160
a little bit different like I said I've

499
00:28:11,330 --> 00:28:09,240
been sitting back

500
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:11,340
the brightness I was biting my my lip

501
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:13,290
for a little bit here because there's a

502
00:28:19,130 --> 00:28:16,530
question asked about why spirits are in

503
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:19,140
cemeteries and I it's a theory of mine

504
00:28:22,970 --> 00:28:20,970
based on I'm going to answer it from my

505
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:22,980
perspective because absolutely

506
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:25,650
interesting but what I have found I've

507
00:28:32,060 --> 00:28:28,290
been to a lot of different places Bobby

508
00:28:33,620 --> 00:28:32,070
Mackey's been this from Edinburgh Asylum

509
00:28:36,530 --> 00:28:33,630
up and I what we just got back from it

510
00:28:38,390 --> 00:28:36,540
make a long story short everywhere I've

511
00:28:40,340 --> 00:28:38,400
ever went we've experienced I've always

512
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:40,350
asked a question or wires spiritual why

513
00:28:42,830 --> 00:28:41,850
in the heck do they stick around doesn't

514
00:28:45,050 --> 00:28:42,840
make any sense why are they in

515
00:28:48,140 --> 00:28:45,060
cemeteries and why is there always more

516
00:28:49,820 --> 00:28:48,150
than one and from what I've experienced

517
00:28:51,740 --> 00:28:49,830
it seems like there's always a dominant

518
00:28:53,750 --> 00:28:51,750
spirit involved somewhere a spirit that

519
00:28:56,590 --> 00:28:53,760
it's a little bit more powerful than

520
00:28:59,960 --> 00:28:56,600
everybody else and my group of myself

521
00:29:01,640 --> 00:28:59,970
have experienced a circumstance where we

522
00:29:04,190 --> 00:29:01,650
try to talk to spirit it would talk to

523
00:29:06,590 --> 00:29:04,200
this to a spirit box or through EVPs and

524
00:29:08,780 --> 00:29:06,600
it would just shut up and we couldn't

525
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:08,790
figure out what it was but my theory is

526
00:29:12,980 --> 00:29:11,130
and we've nicknamed them wardens is we

527
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:12,990
believe that there is an entity there

528
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:14,690
that is stronger than the rest of them I

529
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:16,770
personally don't believe spirits are

530
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:18,240
here on their own freewill I think if

531
00:29:21,860 --> 00:29:19,890
they can move on they will and I think

532
00:29:23,870 --> 00:29:21,870
the weaker spirits are sometimes trapped

533
00:29:26,660 --> 00:29:23,880
in areas like cemeteries and haunted

534
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:26,670
houses and places like Bobby Mackey's in

535
00:29:29,810 --> 00:29:27,930
place like that because they don't have

536
00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:29,820
the strength to escape and this entity

537
00:29:34,460 --> 00:29:31,440
we call a warden is holding them there

538
00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:34,470
and won't let them go so when that

539
00:29:38,300 --> 00:29:36,720
question was asked why do a spirit stay

540
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:38,310
in the cemetery from my experience

541
00:29:43,550 --> 00:29:40,850
that's one of the reasons we have a

542
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:43,560
cemetery up here in Kentucky it's in

543
00:29:48,410 --> 00:29:46,410
Ohio County that we go to several times

544
00:29:50,690 --> 00:29:48,420
we've not really had good experiences

545
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:50,700
there we've caught things but we've had

546
00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:52,130
people that's been scratched

547
00:29:57,530 --> 00:29:54,960
we've got threatening EVPs and stuff

548
00:30:01,040 --> 00:29:57,540
like that there and it's always when we

549
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:01,050
do find a entity there that is basically

550
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:03,090
friendly it seems to be shut up and then

551
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:05,130
somebody takes over so that's just some

552
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:07,170
examples of what we found in areas a lot

553
00:30:13,850 --> 00:30:10,650
of spirits to us what what does the EVP

554
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:13,860
say well we can well let's just say one

555
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:16,770
with the EVP just as an example we would

556
00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:18,450
hear some a little child say I'm going

557
00:30:22,970 --> 00:30:20,640
to kill IVA now you have to understand

558
00:30:25,030 --> 00:30:22,980
that wasn't a threatening IVP

559
00:30:27,530 --> 00:30:25,040
what it was is like if a child would say

560
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:27,540
drop somebody's totally in the South I'm

561
00:30:30,590 --> 00:30:28,770
gonna kill you for doing that

562
00:30:32,930 --> 00:30:30,600
well that's what it sounded like it was

563
00:30:35,330 --> 00:30:32,940
friendly but then another EVP we'd get

564
00:30:36,980 --> 00:30:35,340
we'd say quiet or hush or something like

565
00:30:39,620 --> 00:30:36,990
that and then we were dead we didn't

566
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:39,630
hear anything else for a long time so in

567
00:30:42,590 --> 00:30:41,370
every instance we've seen something like

568
00:30:45,409 --> 00:30:42,600
that there has been an entity that's

569
00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:45,419
told somebody to stop or go away or just

570
00:30:54,530 --> 00:30:48,510
basically shut up and we've at that

571
00:30:56,270 --> 00:30:54,540
instance our evidence quit so it's just

572
00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:56,280
you know it's just a theory we've got

573
00:31:00,730 --> 00:30:58,559
and it's the theories been working out

574
00:31:04,130 --> 00:31:00,740
quite well we've had an instance weapon

575
00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:04,140
it's in Franklin Kentucky in Simpson

576
00:31:06,860 --> 00:31:05,760
County it's called the octagon Hall up

577
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:06,870
there if there's anybody ever wants go

578
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:08,130
investigate a place they need to go

579
00:31:13,909 --> 00:31:10,410
there it used to be a civil war hospital

580
00:31:16,010 --> 00:31:13,919
but we've used a X cam out there and a

581
00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:16,020
couple of things and we've captured the

582
00:31:21,860 --> 00:31:19,049
stick figure of a lady and it's actually

583
00:31:23,750 --> 00:31:21,870
our YouTube page but she's very friendly

584
00:31:26,060 --> 00:31:23,760
and then some other entity shows up and

585
00:31:28,490 --> 00:31:26,070
she disappears and we believe that that

586
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:28,500
entity we had a medium there to psyche

587
00:31:31,970 --> 00:31:30,090
at the same time they told me the guy

588
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:31,980
didn't like us too much basically me

589
00:31:35,570 --> 00:31:34,290
didn't like too much and he was

590
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:35,580
determined that we weren't going to talk

591
00:31:39,230 --> 00:31:37,770
to anybody there so those are just some

592
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:39,240
of the experiences we have that's why

593
00:31:42,110 --> 00:31:41,010
I'm saying you know but the cemetery

594
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:42,120
part when that question was asked

595
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:43,290
there's a good chance to the most

596
00:31:46,430 --> 00:31:45,210
circumstances that the entities don't

597
00:31:49,820 --> 00:31:46,440
want to be there but they're forced to

598
00:31:53,990 --> 00:31:49,830
stay there in my opinion well now who do

599
00:31:58,940 --> 00:31:54,000
you think this is this dominating the

600
00:32:00,440 --> 00:31:58,950
force is well it's usually just somebody

601
00:32:02,659 --> 00:32:00,450
that's more powerful than the rest of

602
00:32:07,070 --> 00:32:02,669
them I believe there's a power in each

603
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:07,080
of us and when you pass on somebody

604
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:09,210
that's passed on before as it's just

605
00:32:13,190 --> 00:32:11,610
like if you play a sport use as an

606
00:32:15,020 --> 00:32:13,200
example if you go out and play sports

607
00:32:16,909 --> 00:32:15,030
when you're three years old you're doing

608
00:32:17,990 --> 00:32:16,919
good and when you get to be 31 or

609
00:32:20,090 --> 00:32:18,000
something like that you're doing great

610
00:32:22,070 --> 00:32:20,100
you learn you learn what to do with your

611
00:32:23,510 --> 00:32:22,080
with your abilities and I think these

612
00:32:25,610 --> 00:32:23,520
spirits that are warns have learned what

613
00:32:27,110 --> 00:32:25,620
to do with their abilities and then when

614
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:27,120
other spirits come on that do not have

615
00:32:29,900 --> 00:32:28,530
the same knowledge they are actually

616
00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:29,910
trapped there because he won't let them

617
00:32:35,580 --> 00:32:32,110
or he she or it whatever it is

618
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:35,590
on what what's the most haunted place

619
00:32:40,260 --> 00:32:38,530
you've ever visible I have to live most

620
00:32:43,470 --> 00:32:40,270
haunted places after me in Iowa which is

621
00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:43,480
Edinburgh and I we had some experiences

622
00:32:48,090 --> 00:32:44,799
of one I won't talk about because I

623
00:32:49,620 --> 00:32:48,100
promised I wouldn't but I'm actually two

624
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:49,630
of our individuals witnessed an

625
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:51,730
apparition there when I was one of them

626
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:53,650
and shocked the heck out I mean I was

627
00:32:56,370 --> 00:32:55,210
walking upstairs from the basement and I

628
00:32:59,340 --> 00:32:56,380
turned to look to the right and there

629
00:33:01,049 --> 00:32:59,350
was a man standing there he was fully

630
00:33:02,310 --> 00:33:01,059
dressed and he was looking at the door

631
00:33:04,980 --> 00:33:02,320
as soon as I turned looked at him he

632
00:33:07,289 --> 00:33:04,990
just disappeared and I said a few

633
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:07,299
custards and when I do that they knew

634
00:33:10,470 --> 00:33:08,890
something was wrong my crew did and

635
00:33:11,700 --> 00:33:10,480
asked me what was wrong I said there's a

636
00:33:14,220 --> 00:33:11,710
man it was standing right there but

637
00:33:16,470 --> 00:33:14,230
we've had some we've had some

638
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:16,480
experiences there and let's just say

639
00:33:19,590 --> 00:33:18,130
this at the end of the night I was

640
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:19,600
outside with one of the crew members

641
00:33:23,730 --> 00:33:21,130
calming them down and the rest of the

642
00:33:25,530 --> 00:33:23,740
crew was quickly getting the equipment

643
00:33:26,820 --> 00:33:25,540
to get out of there so that was probably

644
00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:26,830
one of the scariest places we've ever

645
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:28,720
been to and I think there too we were

646
00:33:33,330 --> 00:33:30,130
dealing with a warden because you have

647
00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:33,340
to understand Edinburgh at one time when

648
00:33:37,470 --> 00:33:35,440
it first started it was a poorhouse

649
00:33:38,820 --> 00:33:37,480
which meant that you know back in the

650
00:33:40,350 --> 00:33:38,830
depression you don't have anywhere to go

651
00:33:42,870 --> 00:33:40,360
or survive you went to this place it was

652
00:33:45,570 --> 00:33:42,880
a farmhouse and he would work for your

653
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:45,580
food and board by farming the land and

654
00:33:50,070 --> 00:33:47,770
then it eventually became a sort of like

655
00:33:52,740 --> 00:33:50,080
a YMCA on the bottom half of it on the

656
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:52,750
top half it became what they called it

657
00:33:56,970 --> 00:33:55,330
insane asylum but you can understand

658
00:33:59,820 --> 00:33:56,980
back in the day of a sane asylum you

659
00:34:01,230 --> 00:33:59,830
know you could you could have a bipolar

660
00:34:04,110 --> 00:34:01,240
and they considered you being insane

661
00:34:07,890 --> 00:34:04,120
sometimes a lot of people tortured I

662
00:34:09,510 --> 00:34:07,900
mean yeah they had I guess they had over

663
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:09,520
a hundred and eighty five confirmed

664
00:34:14,010 --> 00:34:11,050
deaths at this place a lot of more

665
00:34:15,210 --> 00:34:14,020
suicides from the second floor and it

666
00:34:16,409 --> 00:34:15,220
was because people are put in there

667
00:34:18,180 --> 00:34:16,419
shouldn't have been put in there and

668
00:34:21,090 --> 00:34:18,190
they you know depression they committed

669
00:34:22,379 --> 00:34:21,100
suicide so the whole place is filled

670
00:34:25,740 --> 00:34:22,389
with a lot of negative energy especially

671
00:34:28,740 --> 00:34:25,750
upstairs and we felt it severely when we

672
00:34:30,899 --> 00:34:28,750
went there is this past week well if I

673
00:34:32,730 --> 00:34:30,909
were a spirit I would want to get the

674
00:34:35,609 --> 00:34:32,740
hell out of there I don't think I know

675
00:34:37,260 --> 00:34:35,619
that my whole point yes why would you

676
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:37,270
stay there it doesn't make any sense

677
00:34:41,129 --> 00:34:38,530
why would you put yourself in a position

678
00:34:43,710 --> 00:34:41,139
to spend eternity in a place like that

679
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:43,720
if you could leave the point is I just

680
00:34:49,770 --> 00:34:45,970
think they believe well here's the

681
00:34:51,180 --> 00:34:49,780
for you where do spirits go I mean

682
00:34:54,599 --> 00:34:51,190
suppose you break out of that or you're

683
00:34:57,359 --> 00:34:54,609
not in that you know that atmosphere

684
00:34:59,220 --> 00:34:57,369
being held captive somewhere you go to

685
00:35:01,410 --> 00:34:59,230
the summer land do you go to heaven do

686
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:01,420
you go to hell do you go to a parallel

687
00:35:06,660 --> 00:35:05,050
universe are you reincarnated I think

688
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:06,670
that's the 50 dollar question because we

689
00:35:10,050 --> 00:35:08,170
don't know I mean there's a lot of

690
00:35:12,450 --> 00:35:10,060
things in the paranormal world there's a

691
00:35:14,099 --> 00:35:12,460
lot of people say oh I'm an expert I'm a

692
00:35:15,150 --> 00:35:14,109
professional I know everything there is

693
00:35:16,170 --> 00:35:15,160
to know and they really don't know

694
00:35:18,330 --> 00:35:16,180
anything

695
00:35:19,740 --> 00:35:18,340
Kevon quantum on which works with me at

696
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:19,750
Stone Creek reader natural and I work

697
00:35:23,220 --> 00:35:21,970
with a bunch of different groups but we

698
00:35:24,930 --> 00:35:23,230
were sitting down one time he said do me

699
00:35:27,420 --> 00:35:24,940
a favor he said draw a big circle on a

700
00:35:29,099 --> 00:35:27,430
piece of paper and I did that and he

701
00:35:30,540 --> 00:35:29,109
said okay that's all the knowledge of

702
00:35:31,980 --> 00:35:30,550
the universe and the paranormal world

703
00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:31,990
and everything and he said how much

704
00:35:35,849 --> 00:35:33,250
knowledge do you think we have right now

705
00:35:37,290 --> 00:35:35,859
and I could only draw a little dot in

706
00:35:39,450 --> 00:35:37,300
the middle of it because we hardly know

707
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:39,460
anything that's going on we act like we

708
00:35:42,900 --> 00:35:41,530
do and we think we do but the truth is

709
00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:42,910
sometimes we can get some dangerous

710
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:44,320
positions because we're fooling with

711
00:35:50,820 --> 00:35:48,970
stuff we don't understand and if the bio

712
00:35:52,859 --> 00:35:50,830
you guys rose from an article I did in a

713
00:35:54,030 --> 00:35:52,869
newspaper and there was more to that

714
00:35:56,370 --> 00:35:54,040
interview than before but what I

715
00:35:58,349 --> 00:35:56,380
specifically told them was that we have

716
00:36:00,030 --> 00:35:58,359
to be careful about what we're dealing

717
00:36:01,859 --> 00:36:00,040
with because what we think we're dealing

718
00:36:03,089 --> 00:36:01,869
with we may not be and we could be

719
00:36:06,540 --> 00:36:03,099
getting into some serious trouble

720
00:36:08,550 --> 00:36:06,550
because nobody knows what spirit is we

721
00:36:11,250 --> 00:36:08,560
think we do we have an idea what it is

722
00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:11,260
but a hundred years ago science thought

723
00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:12,910
that the universe was made the plasma

724
00:36:16,589 --> 00:36:14,800
now they know it's dark matter things

725
00:36:17,790 --> 00:36:16,599
change you think you may know one thing

726
00:36:19,740 --> 00:36:17,800
one day and the next thing everything

727
00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:19,750
changes because of a new discovery I

728
00:36:24,270 --> 00:36:21,910
think at this point we're at a phase of

729
00:36:25,410 --> 00:36:24,280
discovery just like we're going into a

730
00:36:27,270 --> 00:36:25,420
new world we don't really know what

731
00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:27,280
we're dealing with and we need to kind

732
00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:30,609
of fall back and be careful about what

733
00:36:36,089 --> 00:36:32,609
we're doing especially if we start

734
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:36,099
naming vortexes and portals and stuff

735
00:36:38,940 --> 00:36:37,450
like that we don't even know what they

736
00:36:42,329 --> 00:36:38,950
are what we're dealing we assume we do

737
00:36:43,740 --> 00:36:42,339
but we don't really know so a lot of

738
00:36:45,060 --> 00:36:43,750
people are first starting ghost hunting

739
00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:45,070
or something like that I say what you

740
00:36:48,990 --> 00:36:46,510
need to do is you need to go slow you

741
00:36:50,609 --> 00:36:49,000
need to know what you're doing it's like

742
00:36:51,870 --> 00:36:50,619
my grandfather used to tell me you don't

743
00:36:52,470 --> 00:36:51,880
jump into a river to you know how to

744
00:36:54,329 --> 00:36:52,480
swim

745
00:36:55,650 --> 00:36:54,339
a lot of people jump into rivers without

746
00:36:59,050 --> 00:36:55,660
knowing how to swim and it gets into

747
00:37:02,440 --> 00:36:59,060
more trouble well what what could what

748
00:37:04,690 --> 00:37:02,450
kid what could ghosts in spirits be you

749
00:37:07,990 --> 00:37:04,700
talk about do you think that some of

750
00:37:09,970 --> 00:37:08,000
them could be from a parallel universe

751
00:37:13,510 --> 00:37:09,980
or a parallel dimension

752
00:37:15,970 --> 00:37:13,520
are there certain hotspots with ghosts

753
00:37:18,940 --> 00:37:15,980
and spirits and another pair of

754
00:37:21,700 --> 00:37:18,950
phenomenon I'm gonna appear more

755
00:37:24,180 --> 00:37:21,710
frequently than other places well I

756
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:24,190
think there is but we think there's also

757
00:37:27,910 --> 00:37:26,090
something that a lot of people need to

758
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:27,920
be aware of I don't believe that the

759
00:37:32,910 --> 00:37:30,010
apparition I saw was actually a spirit

760
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:32,920
and I think it was more of a residual

761
00:37:37,270 --> 00:37:35,090
something from the past that I saw in

762
00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:37,280
the future and you know I could go

763
00:37:41,890 --> 00:37:39,110
really deep into this with you guys and

764
00:37:43,870 --> 00:37:41,900
I'm you know why not but right now we

765
00:37:46,570 --> 00:37:43,880
know that the black hole's

766
00:37:48,670 --> 00:37:46,580
have such a strong gravity can ripped it

767
00:37:50,470 --> 00:37:48,680
repulsion time so how do we know that's

768
00:37:52,270 --> 00:37:50,480
not affecting us right now we can see

769
00:37:54,970 --> 00:37:52,280
into the past or the past can see us or

770
00:37:56,290 --> 00:37:54,980
the future can see us I guess my main

771
00:37:57,580 --> 00:37:56,300
question would be for a lot of people to

772
00:38:00,940 --> 00:37:57,590
see apparitions is why in the world

773
00:38:03,460 --> 00:38:00,950
would a dress a ghost be dressed they

774
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:03,470
didn't you know yeah why would they be

775
00:38:06,430 --> 00:38:05,090
dressed I don't think when you see an

776
00:38:08,590 --> 00:38:06,440
apparition that's dressed that you're

777
00:38:09,910 --> 00:38:08,600
actually seeing a spirit I think you're

778
00:38:12,250 --> 00:38:09,920
seeing something that was there at one

779
00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:12,260
time and you're either if it is

780
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:14,510
interdimensional you're seeing something

781
00:38:18,130 --> 00:38:16,130
from the past are you seeing something

782
00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:18,140
from the future through that process I

783
00:38:21,790 --> 00:38:19,280
don't believe that we're actually seeing

784
00:38:24,100 --> 00:38:21,800
a spirit because even if you're

785
00:38:25,900 --> 00:38:24,110
religious and you go by what the Bible

786
00:38:28,300 --> 00:38:25,910
says and most people do when they're

787
00:38:30,730 --> 00:38:28,310
religious but every every religion that

788
00:38:34,030 --> 00:38:30,740
I ever know says that once the body dies

789
00:38:37,090 --> 00:38:34,040
the spirit leaves the body and it takes

790
00:38:39,550 --> 00:38:37,100
on a different form and I do not believe

791
00:38:41,650 --> 00:38:39,560
that when we leave the body at spirit

792
00:38:44,950 --> 00:38:41,660
farms we're going to be dressed in 1980

793
00:38:45,820 --> 00:38:44,960
garbs or you know 1870 garbs or whatever

794
00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:45,830
it is I don't say we're going to keep

795
00:38:50,590 --> 00:38:48,800
our civil war uniforms on or something

796
00:38:53,620 --> 00:38:50,600
like that I don't think we materialized

797
00:38:55,210 --> 00:38:53,630
back with clothes so I don't think those

798
00:38:56,380 --> 00:38:55,220
are actually spirits I could be wrong

799
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:56,390
cuz like I said I don't have much

800
00:38:58,780 --> 00:38:57,890
knowledge compared to what we're going

801
00:39:02,050 --> 00:38:58,790
to find out tomorrow

802
00:39:09,130 --> 00:39:02,060
but well well I hope I hope god I hope

803
00:39:13,210 --> 00:39:09,140
God buys me a newest suit well you know

804
00:39:17,530 --> 00:39:13,220
that's that's right that's a story I

805
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:17,540
I heard one time where the the

806
00:39:23,710 --> 00:39:20,570
interviewer was interviewing this person

807
00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:23,720
who was having a ghostly experience

808
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:25,760
where they had moved into a house and

809
00:39:30,099 --> 00:39:28,490
the apparently the little lady who had

810
00:39:32,620 --> 00:39:30,109
lived there before was still living

811
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:32,630
there and this person would would see

812
00:39:38,050 --> 00:39:36,170
this apparition and you know and she was

813
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:38,060
dressed and everything like that well

814
00:39:44,589 --> 00:39:40,130
they brought a medium into the house and

815
00:39:48,970 --> 00:39:44,599
this medium would talk to the spirit and

816
00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:48,980
the spirit tole said that her natural

817
00:39:55,660 --> 00:39:52,400
form was more as she described it like a

818
00:40:00,130 --> 00:39:55,670
ball of energy but that she could

819
00:40:02,859 --> 00:40:00,140
impress herself upon the mind of

820
00:40:05,140 --> 00:40:02,869
somebody where they would think that

821
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:05,150
they were seeing her and she could make

822
00:40:11,230 --> 00:40:08,690
them see I guess her as she looked used

823
00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:11,240
to look or really any way that she

824
00:40:18,130 --> 00:40:14,510
wanted to look so you know I just I just

825
00:40:20,530 --> 00:40:18,140
always found that interesting because of

826
00:40:22,750 --> 00:40:20,540
you know that that question whether you

827
00:40:26,380 --> 00:40:22,760
know why why are there more naked ghost

828
00:40:28,329 --> 00:40:26,390
scene and also the the balls of energy

829
00:40:30,490 --> 00:40:28,339
that are photographed a lot of times as

830
00:40:33,460 --> 00:40:30,500
well because this this spirit said that

831
00:40:36,130 --> 00:40:33,470
her natural state was more like a ball

832
00:40:37,780 --> 00:40:36,140
of energy well I've been on a couple

833
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:37,790
shows I've had people call in and asked

834
00:40:40,990 --> 00:40:39,410
me the same thing and the question I've

835
00:40:43,630 --> 00:40:41,000
always asked him is what was the

836
00:40:46,870 --> 00:40:43,640
apparition doing when you saw him and

837
00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:46,880
I'd say 99% of the time the apparition

838
00:40:53,050 --> 00:40:49,609
did the same thing day after day after

839
00:40:55,510 --> 00:40:53,060
day after day I had one lady that called

840
00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:55,520
in and said that she saw her husband who

841
00:40:58,780 --> 00:40:57,680
had passed away would walk across the

842
00:40:59,349 --> 00:40:58,790
living room floor and getting his

843
00:41:02,680 --> 00:40:59,359
easy-chair

844
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:02,690
to watch wheel of fortune and you know I

845
00:41:04,810 --> 00:41:03,530
don't know if you're in the afterlife

846
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:04,820
people want to watch wheel of fortune

847
00:41:10,900 --> 00:41:09,050
every day but that to me is more of a

848
00:41:12,820 --> 00:41:10,910
residual haunting of something that the

849
00:41:14,530 --> 00:41:12,830
man did for a long period of time over

850
00:41:15,790 --> 00:41:14,540
and over and over again I do believe

851
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:15,800
there's an impression that can be made

852
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:19,570
in you know in the universe we live in

853
00:41:24,370 --> 00:41:22,609
the energy or whatever it is it's done

854
00:41:26,170 --> 00:41:24,380
through our own personal energy but I

855
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:26,180
believe she was seeing it residuals

856
00:41:29,980 --> 00:41:27,890
most every time I've ever experienced

857
00:41:32,499 --> 00:41:29,990
that it's been a residual haunting or

858
00:41:39,069 --> 00:41:32,509
what they call a residual haunting in my

859
00:41:42,839 --> 00:41:39,079
opinion course the Hawaiians the Native

860
00:41:48,730 --> 00:41:42,849
Hawaiians believed that that we have

861
00:41:53,049 --> 00:41:48,740
seven spiritual bodies and when we pass

862
00:41:55,829 --> 00:41:53,059
on those spiritual bodies all go in

863
00:41:59,440 --> 00:41:55,839
their own different directions but they

864
00:42:01,870 --> 00:41:59,450
represents they they have their own

865
00:42:07,269 --> 00:42:01,880
different types of characteristics some

866
00:42:10,779 --> 00:42:07,279
of them are a very low intelligent

867
00:42:14,589 --> 00:42:10,789
almost more like right like the animal

868
00:42:17,559 --> 00:42:14,599
part of you it's it's it figures a lot

869
00:42:19,029 --> 00:42:17,569
into like modern-day psychology you know

870
00:42:23,470 --> 00:42:19,039
with the it'd and the ego and things

871
00:42:26,349 --> 00:42:23,480
like that but the Hawaiians explanation

872
00:42:32,620 --> 00:42:26,359
for various kinds of hauntings is that

873
00:42:36,609 --> 00:42:32,630
these are the lower spirits from you

874
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:36,619
know from you you know that the higher

875
00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:38,450
part of you you know the your your

876
00:42:43,210 --> 00:42:40,609
intelligence your personality that's

877
00:42:45,700 --> 00:42:43,220
gone on to someplace else but this lower

878
00:42:50,710 --> 00:42:45,710
part of you they're like you said it's

879
00:42:53,589 --> 00:42:50,720
almost like a recording of your your

880
00:42:55,479 --> 00:42:53,599
desires and your you know daily

881
00:42:57,339 --> 00:42:55,489
activities and things like that those

882
00:43:01,120 --> 00:42:57,349
are the ones that tend to stick around

883
00:43:03,190 --> 00:43:01,130
so to speak I believe the Egyptians had

884
00:43:04,599 --> 00:43:03,200
something like that too didn't they I'm

885
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:04,609
not mistaken they believed sort of like

886
00:43:09,279 --> 00:43:07,130
the same thing yes yeah very much so

887
00:43:10,900 --> 00:43:09,289
yeah and you know it could because like

888
00:43:13,329 --> 00:43:10,910
I said we don't know really what goes on

889
00:43:15,759 --> 00:43:13,339
we die we can assume it we can guess we

890
00:43:17,380 --> 00:43:15,769
can you know beat on our chests and tell

891
00:43:18,460 --> 00:43:17,390
one person one thing that other person

892
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:18,470
will beat on their chest and tell us

893
00:43:22,839 --> 00:43:21,410
something else but I personally believe

894
00:43:25,809 --> 00:43:22,849
until the paranormal world comes

895
00:43:27,099 --> 00:43:25,819
together is one and we really put our

896
00:43:30,450 --> 00:43:27,109
heads together and start doing a

897
00:43:32,890 --> 00:43:30,460
detailed recording of what we do and

898
00:43:34,359 --> 00:43:32,900
actually have our evidence verified

899
00:43:36,940 --> 00:43:34,369
through other things except just our

900
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:36,950
opinions until that happens that we're

901
00:43:40,270 --> 00:43:38,450
going to be in a stall mode

902
00:43:44,339 --> 00:43:40,280
people outside the paranormal world

903
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:48,400
well very you know I I do agree very

904
00:44:00,400 --> 00:43:53,650
much that our our current belief systems

905
00:44:02,859 --> 00:44:00,410
tend to reflect on to the investigations

906
00:44:05,500 --> 00:44:02,869
because if you look at the way that

907
00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:05,510
people would conduct paranormal

908
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:07,280
investigations you know a hundred years

909
00:44:12,220 --> 00:44:10,130
ago or you know all I can say in the

910
00:44:15,339 --> 00:44:12,230
days when the Fox sisters you know first

911
00:44:21,359 --> 00:44:15,349
started or then up into you know like

912
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:21,369
where you had full-body apparitions in

913
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:24,890
sitting rooms with seances under red

914
00:44:29,319 --> 00:44:26,810
lights and things like that you know

915
00:44:34,450 --> 00:44:29,329
people had a completely different idea

916
00:44:37,410 --> 00:44:34,460
of the afterlife and and why spirits

917
00:44:41,410 --> 00:44:37,420
would visit us then then really we do

918
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:41,420
today so it'll be interesting to see and

919
00:44:47,079 --> 00:44:43,130
you know 50 years a hundred years time

920
00:44:49,780 --> 00:44:47,089
for now what you know what the ideas

921
00:44:54,690 --> 00:44:49,790
will be and whether or not the phenomena

922
00:44:57,010 --> 00:44:54,700
will reflect those beliefs back to us

923
00:44:58,809 --> 00:44:57,020
and I thought enough that we need to

924
00:44:59,859 --> 00:44:58,819
think about as far as that path whether

925
00:45:02,079 --> 00:44:59,869
you're going there think of the

926
00:45:04,930 --> 00:45:02,089
religious aspects to what we do if we

927
00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:04,940
can prove there is life after death that

928
00:45:08,710 --> 00:45:06,560
brings a whole new perspective on

929
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:08,720
religion we're right now religion is

930
00:45:13,900 --> 00:45:11,450
under attack a lot of people just

931
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:13,910
flat-out refuse to believe that there is

932
00:45:18,670 --> 00:45:16,130
life after death at all and that we just

933
00:45:21,099 --> 00:45:18,680
you know absorb our energy into the

934
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:21,109
universe and we're gone forever but well

935
00:45:29,980 --> 00:45:25,450
I think it's because the the evidence

936
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:29,990
has been withheld I mean okay you have

937
00:45:36,430 --> 00:45:33,050
all these shows on TV

938
00:45:39,550 --> 00:45:36,440
which to be are very dubious because

939
00:45:41,620 --> 00:45:39,560
certainly you cannot go every week to a

940
00:45:43,420 --> 00:45:41,630
place and find that the place that

941
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:43,430
you're going to respond it or see

942
00:45:48,150 --> 00:45:45,290
mysterious lights or hear things moving

943
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:48,160
around I don't know I find them kind of

944
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:51,050
just to me they're boring

945
00:45:54,730 --> 00:45:52,450
I mean to be honest

946
00:45:57,490 --> 00:45:54,740
it may be because I lived in a house

947
00:46:00,670 --> 00:45:57,500
that was I had only guys phenomenon in

948
00:46:03,970 --> 00:46:00,680
when I was you know growing up but the

949
00:46:06,610 --> 00:46:03,980
you talk about how our belief system

950
00:46:08,740 --> 00:46:06,620
changes well you know there's a a belief

951
00:46:11,260 --> 00:46:08,750
system kind of flustered by John Muir

952
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:11,270
but he's not the only one that says that

953
00:46:18,250 --> 00:46:16,010
the UFOs are actually coming here or one

954
00:46:21,490 --> 00:46:18,260
of their missions is to take our souls

955
00:46:26,230 --> 00:46:21,500
over to the other side now at first this

956
00:46:28,420 --> 00:46:26,240
may seem to be a downright weird and

957
00:46:30,430 --> 00:46:28,430
unsubstantiated but you know I've

958
00:46:33,310 --> 00:46:30,440
written about in my book on the

959
00:46:40,980 --> 00:46:33,320
synchronicities about what I call the

960
00:46:44,230 --> 00:46:40,990
June 24th enigma June 24 1947 was the

961
00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:44,240
first of the modern day UFO sightings

962
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:46,640
Kenneth Arnold saw nine a gleaming

963
00:46:50,290 --> 00:46:48,410
crescent shaped objects over Mount

964
00:46:51,850 --> 00:46:50,300
Ranier flying information everybody

965
00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:51,860
knows the story we're repeating it over

966
00:46:58,390 --> 00:46:56,000
and over again but it's not

967
00:47:01,210 --> 00:46:58,400
I guess very well known that at least a

968
00:47:04,810 --> 00:47:01,220
dozen UFO researchers have passed away

969
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:04,820
on June 24th now it's not on a regular

970
00:47:09,460 --> 00:47:07,610
basis it's not every year but a dozen

971
00:47:14,050 --> 00:47:09,470
people on that day that were involved in

972
00:47:17,980 --> 00:47:14,060
UFO research is kind of a more than a

973
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:17,990
coincidence I would say now those among

974
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:20,210
those that have passed away on on the

975
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:23,930
particular date will be frank Scully who

976
00:47:30,610 --> 00:47:28,010
wrote the before even Roswell was ever

977
00:47:33,300 --> 00:47:30,620
heard of wrote the book behind the

978
00:47:38,500 --> 00:47:33,310
flying saucers took about told about a

979
00:47:40,980 --> 00:47:38,510
UFO crash then there was Jackie Gleason

980
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:40,990
who actually had one of the largest

981
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:44,210
collection of UFO books of UFOs in the

982
00:47:50,260 --> 00:47:46,130
paranormal all right now I'm gonna have

983
00:48:00,870 --> 00:47:50,270
it here we have good or a break we'll be

984
00:48:07,829 --> 00:48:05,319
explode the bazaars are your e-ticket

985
00:48:11,109 --> 00:48:07,839
ride into the world of the paranoid

986
00:48:15,420 --> 00:48:11,119
strap yourself in as we traverse the

987
00:48:18,539 --> 00:48:15,430
universe exploring the unexplained UFO s

988
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:18,549
ghosts Lost Worlds

989
00:48:24,759 --> 00:48:20,930
cryptozoology waters as well as other

990
00:48:26,999 --> 00:48:24,769
dimensions it's time to take back the

991
00:48:29,890 --> 00:48:27,009
NASA night

992
00:48:33,009 --> 00:48:29,900
now you are electrifying hosts of

993
00:48:41,709 --> 00:48:33,019
exploring the bizarre Timothy Begley and

994
00:48:44,349 --> 00:48:41,719
team sports alright welcome back to the

995
00:48:47,199 --> 00:48:44,359
second power of exploring the bizarre

996
00:48:50,650 --> 00:48:47,209
and tonight our guests are Daryl agile

997
00:48:52,809 --> 00:48:50,660
and D night aka the Kentucky ghost

998
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:52,819
hunter and typically I just wanted to

999
00:48:56,650 --> 00:48:54,650
make a quick comment you were talking

1000
00:49:00,940 --> 00:48:56,660
about before we had to go to our last

1001
00:49:04,029 --> 00:49:00,950
break about people like John Lear and I

1002
00:49:08,469 --> 00:49:04,039
guess even Kenneth Arnold theorized that

1003
00:49:12,370 --> 00:49:08,479
the UFOs were actually here as I guess

1004
00:49:16,779 --> 00:49:12,380
transports for the the newly deceased

1005
00:49:19,949 --> 00:49:16,789
and you know that's that is a really old

1006
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:19,959
concept though I mean there are a lot of

1007
00:49:28,509 --> 00:49:24,650
past societies that their myths and

1008
00:49:31,900 --> 00:49:28,519
legends really had the same thing and I

1009
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:31,910
know this isn't probably he had hoped

1010
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:34,130
based on anything too factual but I

1011
00:49:39,759 --> 00:49:37,130
remember the movie Darby O'Gill and the

1012
00:49:42,039 --> 00:49:39,769
little people when one of the characters

1013
00:49:44,289 --> 00:49:42,049
was getting ready to die you know like

1014
00:49:48,039 --> 00:49:44,299
the the grim grim reaper showed up but

1015
00:49:50,140 --> 00:49:48,049
he had the the carriage driven by horses

1016
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:50,150
that was going to you know take him away

1017
00:49:57,509 --> 00:49:52,729
to the afterlife and yeah it just sounds

1018
00:50:00,660 --> 00:49:57,519
to me like the these theories about ufos

1019
00:50:04,539 --> 00:50:00,670
doing that it's just kind of modernizing

1020
00:50:06,819 --> 00:50:04,549
these these older ideas so I believe

1021
00:50:09,609 --> 00:50:06,829
what the Egyptian is going to take

1022
00:50:12,729 --> 00:50:09,619
people in a boat over never Niles yes

1023
00:50:13,950 --> 00:50:12,739
yeah that's right that's right so I mean

1024
00:50:17,099 --> 00:50:13,960
it's it's a

1025
00:50:19,589 --> 00:50:17,109
you know everything old is new again you

1026
00:50:23,420 --> 00:50:19,599
know you've got these old ideas that

1027
00:50:28,620 --> 00:50:23,430
have been given a new given a new face a

1028
00:50:30,870 --> 00:50:28,630
fresh coating of chrome and except

1029
00:50:33,810 --> 00:50:30,880
instead of angels now you've got little

1030
00:50:37,170 --> 00:50:33,820
guys with a little gray guys with big

1031
00:50:39,150 --> 00:50:37,180
eyes who are taking our souls to the

1032
00:50:40,950 --> 00:50:39,160
moon and that was our layer is thinking

1033
00:50:43,530 --> 00:50:40,960
that there is something on the other

1034
00:50:45,210 --> 00:50:43,540
side of the Moon that yeah well and

1035
00:50:50,099 --> 00:50:45,220
they're also coming with blowtorch yes

1036
00:50:52,710 --> 00:50:50,109
so yeah okay oh you wrote you wrote

1037
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:52,720
about that in the UFO hostilities yeah I

1038
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:54,970
write I write so much stuff Tim it's

1039
00:51:00,240 --> 00:50:56,880
hard for me to remember sometimes

1040
00:51:02,730 --> 00:51:00,250
butylated you don't you belated bodies

1041
00:51:04,980 --> 00:51:02,740
oh yes that's right that's right well

1042
00:51:08,250 --> 00:51:04,990
that's that's off that's off subject

1043
00:51:11,940 --> 00:51:08,260
here well I wanted to I wanted to ask

1044
00:51:15,630 --> 00:51:11,950
Darryl here we got a question that we

1045
00:51:18,780 --> 00:51:15,640
had in the previous segment and Darryl

1046
00:51:21,839 --> 00:51:18,790
this the question was was asking if you

1047
00:51:25,530 --> 00:51:21,849
think that possibly you may be a medium

1048
00:51:29,010 --> 00:51:25,540
or or you know maybe psychically gifted

1049
00:51:31,170 --> 00:51:29,020
if you have the ability to to see you

1050
00:51:36,329 --> 00:51:31,180
know like dark spirits and and dark

1051
00:51:40,950 --> 00:51:36,339
energy well I believe that I have some

1052
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:40,960
sort of special gift yes there's been

1053
00:51:47,570 --> 00:51:43,450
many times where we would be out in the

1054
00:51:53,310 --> 00:51:47,580
cemetery or at a haunted location and

1055
00:51:54,770 --> 00:51:53,320
actually see the spirits flying through

1056
00:52:03,260 --> 00:51:54,780
the air

1057
00:52:07,260 --> 00:52:03,270
they look like blue electric bolts just

1058
00:52:13,650 --> 00:52:07,270
just going through the air and they they

1059
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:13,660
they fly very fast and you can if you've

1060
00:52:20,820 --> 00:52:16,450
ever hunted like rabbits and you lead

1061
00:52:23,940 --> 00:52:20,830
the rabbits well that's what we do when

1062
00:52:26,359 --> 00:52:23,950
we see these go by we will lead them

1063
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:26,369
just a little bit and then we will take

1064
00:52:37,170 --> 00:52:27,690
photo

1065
00:52:42,420 --> 00:52:37,180
would love to show people we've made a

1066
00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:42,430
couple books and they just just out of

1067
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:47,110
this world yes I do believe that we have

1068
00:52:59,780 --> 00:52:53,290
the ability to see the spirits and I am

1069
00:53:03,980 --> 00:52:59,790
I have been training linda whitley to

1070
00:53:09,690 --> 00:53:03,990
open up her eyes and open up her mind to

1071
00:53:15,890 --> 00:53:09,700
actually see these and she is very good

1072
00:53:22,310 --> 00:53:15,900
at it now and her and i we we are a good

1073
00:53:27,510 --> 00:53:22,320
team out in the field and we just have

1074
00:53:31,650 --> 00:53:27,520
more years more time to to get even more

1075
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:31,660
proof and evidence and hopefully we will

1076
00:53:38,790 --> 00:53:36,370
get something extraordinary on film and

1077
00:53:43,910 --> 00:53:38,800
that's my main goal that's my life's

1078
00:53:46,860 --> 00:53:43,920
work is to do that now when it comes to

1079
00:53:50,130 --> 00:53:46,870
paranormal photography i mean how did

1080
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:50,140
you how did you get interested in in

1081
00:53:57,750 --> 00:53:54,640
trying to use you know cameras and

1082
00:53:59,820 --> 00:53:57,760
photography to to assist you in in ghost

1083
00:54:04,170 --> 00:53:59,830
i mean i know your your bio said that

1084
00:54:06,630 --> 00:54:04,180
you you you taught photography in

1085
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:06,640
college is that is that correct yes I

1086
00:54:14,570 --> 00:54:07,450
did

1087
00:54:19,250 --> 00:54:14,580
I taught peripherals digital photography

1088
00:54:23,370 --> 00:54:19,260
it was it was fun I loved it

1089
00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:23,380
I've taken Oh God so many so many

1090
00:54:29,730 --> 00:54:26,250
pictures of my own the whole life and

1091
00:54:35,220 --> 00:54:29,740
once I started getting into the

1092
00:54:36,540 --> 00:54:35,230
paranormal you know I got orbs and I

1093
00:54:39,810 --> 00:54:36,550
thought that was the best thing in the

1094
00:54:41,070 --> 00:54:39,820
world you know you know start now very

1095
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:41,080
young

1096
00:54:51,570 --> 00:54:46,170
and then the orbs started getting well

1097
00:54:55,170 --> 00:54:51,580
monotonous started getting so many even

1098
00:55:00,030 --> 00:54:55,180
though I get extraordinary pictures of

1099
00:55:04,410 --> 00:55:00,040
orbs I bet you I have to lead it at

1100
00:55:08,130 --> 00:55:04,420
least a half a million orbs in the last

1101
00:55:10,770 --> 00:55:08,140
past year or so we get with just get

1102
00:55:14,490 --> 00:55:10,780
bombarded with them my thing is when I

1103
00:55:18,420 --> 00:55:14,500
first got my good picture of spirit

1104
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:18,430
smoke that has been at that it was the

1105
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:21,010
Coupe de Gras that just turned me on

1106
00:55:24,990 --> 00:55:22,450
like you wouldn't believe

1107
00:55:29,340 --> 00:55:25,000
okay tell West what's what spirits smoke

1108
00:55:35,460 --> 00:55:29,350
tell us what that is the ectoplasm the

1109
00:55:41,660 --> 00:55:35,470
the smoke that emanates from spirits

1110
00:55:48,990 --> 00:55:41,670
I believe my thought is the smoke is

1111
00:55:54,810 --> 00:55:49,000
either before they turn into a full

1112
00:55:59,490 --> 00:55:54,820
apparition or the after they were in the

1113
00:56:02,870 --> 00:55:59,500
full apparition in other words my belief

1114
00:56:06,810 --> 00:56:02,880
is the the spirit smoke is catching them

1115
00:56:12,090 --> 00:56:06,820
either before or after and there are

1116
00:56:13,950 --> 00:56:12,100
just so many I have a I have what you

1117
00:56:18,690 --> 00:56:13,960
call a protector

1118
00:56:26,100 --> 00:56:18,700
she lives in Houston Texas and the

1119
00:56:29,730 --> 00:56:26,110
protector protects me from all the evil

1120
00:56:31,910 --> 00:56:29,740
stuff that I come in contact with she

1121
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:31,920
told me about three weeks ago she says

1122
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:36,610
you are wearing me out says what she

1123
00:56:42,630 --> 00:56:39,850
says all the places that you go and all

1124
00:56:44,820 --> 00:56:42,640
the things that you do you run into a

1125
00:56:48,290 --> 00:56:44,830
lot of dark spirits a lot of dark

1126
00:56:54,050 --> 00:56:48,300
entities and it's just wearing me out

1127
00:56:58,490 --> 00:56:54,060
keeping you safe so the

1128
00:57:01,760 --> 00:56:58,500
the entities to the smoke I believe is

1129
00:57:09,740 --> 00:57:01,770
just catching them either before or

1130
00:57:13,370 --> 00:57:09,750
after they actually you know were in the

1131
00:57:17,740 --> 00:57:13,380
full-figured apparition or you know

1132
00:57:22,970 --> 00:57:17,750
before or after that's what I think

1133
00:57:24,260 --> 00:57:22,980
now can you can you see this smoke with

1134
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:24,270
you know with it with the naked eye

1135
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:25,770
before you take the pictures or do you

1136
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:28,370
take the pictures and the smoke appears

1137
00:57:38,870 --> 00:57:34,890
on the film the most part probably 90%

1138
00:57:45,710 --> 00:57:38,880
of it I see it with my eye you can

1139
00:57:50,230 --> 00:57:45,720
actually see the the blue the the whole

1140
00:57:57,230 --> 00:57:50,240
sky in a certain area is just

1141
00:58:02,360 --> 00:57:57,240
illuminated with with bright blue light

1142
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:02,370
and that's when we will take a picture

1143
00:58:08,230 --> 00:58:05,250
you know that's why I say when we see it

1144
00:58:11,780 --> 00:58:08,240
we lead it you know like you you lead a

1145
00:58:14,860 --> 00:58:11,790
rabbit and when we actually see this

1146
00:58:21,860 --> 00:58:14,870
going on we take a picture of it and we

1147
00:58:25,790 --> 00:58:21,870
have caught so many on on this film yet

1148
00:58:28,910 --> 00:58:25,800
you know you talk about disappearing is

1149
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:28,920
like smoke are you familiar with the

1150
00:58:36,710 --> 00:58:33,810
legend of the Djinn I've read oh I've

1151
00:58:40,220 --> 00:58:36,720
read a little bit about the Djinn but as

1152
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:40,230
far as go hell they they are they aren't

1153
00:58:48,970 --> 00:58:43,770
they are supposedly made of fireless

1154
00:58:51,500 --> 00:58:48,980
smoke and that's how they appear to most

1155
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:51,510
members usually of the Islamic of faith

1156
00:58:57,620 --> 00:58:54,210
but they could also be a pure year and

1157
00:59:04,299 --> 00:58:57,630
we think of them as ghosts perhaps

1158
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:07,009
we've had that rosemary ellen guiley on

1159
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:10,170
who's written pretty extensible about

1160
00:59:18,229 --> 00:59:13,410
the gin but they appear as like i say

1161
00:59:21,289 --> 00:59:18,239
fire lets us know the students i bought

1162
00:59:24,470 --> 00:59:21,299
yeah anyway that's a you know something

1163
00:59:27,349 --> 00:59:24,480
to consider and maybe to look into why

1164
00:59:38,180 --> 00:59:27,359
would they okay what i do ghosts appear

1165
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:38,190
transparent this open everybody this is

1166
00:59:44,420 --> 00:59:41,130
my opinion and transparency energies

1167
00:59:46,999 --> 00:59:44,430
transparent and the firm belief in the

1168
00:59:50,180 --> 00:59:47,009
paranormal right now is that a spirit or

1169
00:59:51,739 --> 00:59:50,190
whatever is energizing energy and i

1170
00:59:52,999 --> 00:59:51,749
think they're transparents a lot of the

1171
00:59:57,170 --> 00:59:53,009
time because of the fact that this

1172
01:00:01,789 --> 00:59:57,180
energy yes I think that's a simple

1173
01:00:05,839 --> 01:00:01,799
answer yes and I agree with that it is

1174
01:00:09,019 --> 01:00:05,849
it's nothing but energy and I also have

1175
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:09,029
had my cameras a lot of times go

1176
01:00:13,489 --> 01:00:11,130
completely dead and my flashlight see

1177
01:00:17,299 --> 01:00:13,499
how they they suck up energy you know

1178
01:00:20,450 --> 01:00:17,309
that's what they thrive on and yes I

1179
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:20,460
agree you know it's spooky being

1180
01:00:26,479 --> 01:00:23,730
somewhere and your lights just go dead

1181
01:00:29,839 --> 01:00:26,489
and you're trying to find your way you

1182
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:29,849
know back to the car or whatever but you

1183
01:00:34,430 --> 01:00:32,730
know I on the other hand you have either

1184
01:00:38,539 --> 01:00:34,440
what do you can answer this or both of

1185
01:00:41,029 --> 01:00:38,549
you in order do you have a ghost they're

1186
01:00:44,479 --> 01:00:41,039
spirits that take on physical form and

1187
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:44,489
can leave footprints or handprints on

1188
01:00:48,670 --> 01:00:47,730
the windows or something in to that

1189
01:00:54,829 --> 01:00:48,680
effect

1190
01:00:59,599 --> 01:00:54,839
well I believe they can because the the

1191
01:01:04,309 --> 01:00:59,609
entity that lived with us it was able to

1192
01:01:06,170 --> 01:01:04,319
move things it was able to touch it was

1193
01:01:09,890 --> 01:01:06,180
able to pull the covers off so I you

1194
01:01:16,259 --> 01:01:09,900
know why couldn't it leave a footprint

1195
01:01:18,659 --> 01:01:16,269
say like in the sand or in sprinkle baby

1196
01:01:22,589 --> 01:01:18,669
or something you know why couldn't leave

1197
01:01:24,329 --> 01:01:22,599
a fingerprint somewhere well I've got an

1198
01:01:25,739 --> 01:01:24,339
actual experience of that and I believe

1199
01:01:27,269 --> 01:01:25,749
I've been trying to think of where it

1200
01:01:29,669 --> 01:01:27,279
was I think it was at thornhaven this

1201
01:01:31,109 --> 01:01:29,679
happened but I was and I when I go out I

1202
01:01:33,329 --> 01:01:31,119
go out with different groups I don't

1203
01:01:34,769 --> 01:01:33,339
really have a crew that's my own crew

1204
01:01:36,269 --> 01:01:34,779
and once again I was going out with

1205
01:01:38,879 --> 01:01:36,279
Stone Creek preternatural out of

1206
01:01:40,079 --> 01:01:38,889
Cincinnati and they have a medium there

1207
01:01:42,359 --> 01:01:40,089
that's a really good friend of mine her

1208
01:01:45,659 --> 01:01:42,369
name is Denise Wilkins and Kevin Robbins

1209
01:01:48,479 --> 01:01:45,669
our lead investigator but make a long

1210
01:01:51,659 --> 01:01:48,489
story short she was upstairs and she was

1211
01:01:53,219 --> 01:01:51,669
sensing children and when she came

1212
01:01:55,949 --> 01:01:53,229
downstairs somebody said what's that on

1213
01:01:57,359 --> 01:01:55,959
your back and Kevin turned around put a

1214
01:02:00,329 --> 01:01:57,369
light on it she actually had a child's

1215
01:02:02,249 --> 01:02:00,339
handprint on her back and that pictures

1216
01:02:03,899 --> 01:02:02,259
actually on the website kentucky ghost

1217
01:02:06,119 --> 01:02:03,909
on her comp anybody wanted to look at it

1218
01:02:09,629 --> 01:02:06,129
when the picture section but you can see

1219
01:02:11,579 --> 01:02:09,639
a complete it is it's like it's like

1220
01:02:13,649 --> 01:02:11,589
somebody put their hand in dust and then

1221
01:02:14,939 --> 01:02:13,659
put it on her back so I don't know what

1222
01:02:16,139 --> 01:02:14,949
that how to explain that but they

1223
01:02:18,029 --> 01:02:16,149
actually left the fingerprint on her

1224
01:02:20,009 --> 01:02:18,039
back and Kevin put his hand up next to

1225
01:02:20,749 --> 01:02:20,019
hers to show that it was a child's

1226
01:02:23,819 --> 01:02:20,759
handprint

1227
01:02:25,139 --> 01:02:23,829
so I know 100 percent positive they can

1228
01:02:26,519 --> 01:02:25,149
leave marks like that or they can leave

1229
01:02:27,809 --> 01:02:26,529
their impressions if they really want to

1230
01:02:29,819 --> 01:02:27,819
I don't know how they do it but I know

1231
01:02:31,619 --> 01:02:29,829
they do it well you know it's funny that

1232
01:02:35,359 --> 01:02:31,629
you should mention that because just

1233
01:02:42,359 --> 01:02:35,369
this evening I'm working on our next

1234
01:02:46,099 --> 01:02:42,369
book which is on Oh like the sexual

1235
01:02:51,029 --> 01:02:46,109
relation between aliens and humans and

1236
01:02:53,219 --> 01:02:51,039
we have a lady Eva down in the blue

1237
01:02:55,379 --> 01:02:53,229
she's in Texas too if I'm right

1238
01:02:57,929 --> 01:02:55,389
who has written a book called the love

1239
01:03:02,189 --> 01:02:57,939
bite and she's investigated many many

1240
01:03:07,529 --> 01:03:02,199
cases of this nature and apparently

1241
01:03:10,979 --> 01:03:07,539
under fluorescent lion a she is able to

1242
01:03:15,529 --> 01:03:10,989
find the markings on people's of bodies

1243
01:03:20,729 --> 01:03:15,539
that these let's call them entities for

1244
01:03:23,249 --> 01:03:20,739
lack of a more sufficient term and some

1245
01:03:27,539 --> 01:03:23,259
of the people she says have actually

1246
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:27,549
been branded by like what she describes

1247
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:30,010
as aliens but they could be a pair

1248
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:31,930
normal or some other sort of uh

1249
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:34,330
phenomena and people interpret him

1250
01:03:38,270 --> 01:03:35,890
accordingly you know of course

1251
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:38,280
throughout history we had all these

1252
01:03:47,580 --> 01:03:42,130
stories regarding Tsukuba and Incubus

1253
01:03:52,290 --> 01:03:47,590
that supposedly came at night and made

1254
01:03:56,730 --> 01:03:52,300
it or made love or molested human beings

1255
01:04:00,870 --> 01:03:56,740
so again what's uh what's old as made

1256
01:04:02,130 --> 01:04:00,880
new again when I was in the in the

1257
01:04:05,100 --> 01:04:02,140
paranormal world I'm sure you guys have

1258
01:04:07,290 --> 01:04:05,110
heard about this but there is a my wife

1259
01:04:09,210 --> 01:04:07,300
Chris she she's had this experience

1260
01:04:11,490 --> 01:04:09,220
several times I think two or three times

1261
01:04:13,890 --> 01:04:11,500
about where they actually an entity will

1262
01:04:16,860 --> 01:04:13,900
touch us or go through it and we three

1263
01:04:18,810 --> 01:04:16,870
marks on who they call them scratches

1264
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:18,820
and they say it's demonic and everything

1265
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:21,250
but there's two different theories that

1266
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:23,050
one is they're demonic and another is if

1267
01:04:25,740 --> 01:04:24,130
you're dealing with energy and the

1268
01:04:27,810 --> 01:04:25,750
energy pushes against you we don't have

1269
01:04:30,180 --> 01:04:27,820
a clue what that effect will have on our

1270
01:04:31,620 --> 01:04:30,190
body that could just be a spirit or

1271
01:04:34,110 --> 01:04:31,630
entity just trying to say hey Here I am

1272
01:04:36,030 --> 01:04:34,120
and the results of them touching you

1273
01:04:37,470 --> 01:04:36,040
causes with three marks but that's sort

1274
01:04:41,130 --> 01:04:37,480
of like a branding thing - there's a lot

1275
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:41,140
of people in those again it's

1276
01:04:45,900 --> 01:04:42,850
interesting that note the similarity

1277
01:04:48,210 --> 01:04:45,910
between ghostly phenomenon and the UFO

1278
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:48,220
phenomena in fact I think more and more

1279
01:04:53,790 --> 01:04:50,770
people are beginning to see that there

1280
01:04:56,100 --> 01:04:53,800
is a certain unity or correlation

1281
01:04:59,430 --> 01:04:56,110
between pretty much everything that goes

1282
01:05:01,530 --> 01:04:59,440
on in the well you know if you think

1283
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:01,540
about it it's basically the same thing

1284
01:05:07,410 --> 01:05:04,930
if we if we die or we pass on we're not

1285
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:07,420
meant to be here we're really aliens

1286
01:05:12,060 --> 01:05:09,850
here so if you think about it it's the

1287
01:05:13,710 --> 01:05:12,070
same exactly yes if they're you know and

1288
01:05:15,300 --> 01:05:13,720
I'm saying if I believe in it but some

1289
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:15,310
people don't but if there is you know

1290
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:17,650
angels and stuff like that they didn't

1291
01:05:21,030 --> 01:05:19,330
come from Earth they came from somewhere

1292
01:05:23,190 --> 01:05:21,040
outside of Earth so by definition of

1293
01:05:27,540 --> 01:05:23,200
science those are aliens food so you

1294
01:05:30,090 --> 01:05:27,550
know it is courtly we have a closer

1295
01:05:32,610 --> 01:05:30,100
friend and associate there's a show

1296
01:05:34,530 --> 01:05:32,620
and I'm not an overly religious person

1297
01:05:36,630 --> 01:05:34,540
I've had a few administers who were

1298
01:05:39,030 --> 01:05:36,640
friends of mine mainly because they were

1299
01:05:42,530 --> 01:05:39,040
interested in your clothes but Reverend

1300
01:05:44,100 --> 01:05:42,540
Barry downing has written a book on UFO

1301
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:44,110
rebel

1302
01:05:49,860 --> 01:05:47,170
relations that we published recently and

1303
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:49,870
he sees most of the things or a lot of

1304
01:05:55,530 --> 01:05:51,730
the things that took place in the Bible

1305
01:05:58,050 --> 01:05:55,540
is actually being physical in nature in

1306
01:05:59,610 --> 01:05:58,060
other words the angels were real I mean

1307
01:06:02,310 --> 01:05:59,620
they weren't just something that could

1308
01:06:03,210 --> 01:06:02,320
materialize home although I guess it

1309
01:06:05,370 --> 01:06:03,220
could do that too

1310
01:06:07,020 --> 01:06:05,380
but they were they were flesh flesh and

1311
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:07,030
blood and they might have come down in a

1312
01:06:13,350 --> 01:06:10,930
yeah a UFO and if Jesus really was

1313
01:06:15,810 --> 01:06:13,360
lifted in the heaven he could have gone

1314
01:06:20,970 --> 01:06:15,820
there in some sort of what we would call

1315
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:20,980
a spaceship so maybe heaven is really up

1316
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:24,490
among the stars but you have to you know

1317
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:25,810
let's go really deep here since you

1318
01:06:30,150 --> 01:06:28,570
brought it up yeah you have to think of

1319
01:06:33,690 --> 01:06:30,160
it this way before the universe was

1320
01:06:35,610 --> 01:06:33,700
created what was out there nobody really

1321
01:06:37,290 --> 01:06:35,620
knows the science now knows that the

1322
01:06:40,110 --> 01:06:37,300
hearse being bomb or not the earth but

1323
01:06:42,540 --> 01:06:40,120
the universe is being bombarded by dark

1324
01:06:44,580 --> 01:06:42,550
matter on a constant basis so that

1325
01:06:45,930 --> 01:06:44,590
probably gives us a good detail that

1326
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:45,940
outside of our universe is another

1327
01:06:50,220 --> 01:06:47,410
universe that's mostly made up of dark

1328
01:06:51,570 --> 01:06:50,230
matter which does not have light because

1329
01:06:52,980 --> 01:06:51,580
light really can't go through dark

1330
01:06:55,860 --> 01:06:52,990
matter that's why they call it dark

1331
01:06:58,680 --> 01:06:55,870
matter and if that be the case when God

1332
01:07:00,540 --> 01:06:58,690
created light it would have been the

1333
01:07:02,750 --> 01:07:00,550
first light because of outside the

1334
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:02,760
universe I wouldn't have been lying so

1335
01:07:06,750 --> 01:07:05,170
if there is angels that's where they

1336
01:07:08,730 --> 01:07:06,760
came from was actually outside of our

1337
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:08,740
universe to here on earth which means

1338
01:07:11,370 --> 01:07:10,330
that you know people say they're dark

1339
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:11,380
spirits well that would kind of

1340
01:07:15,990 --> 01:07:13,810
correlate with what what you could

1341
01:07:17,780 --> 01:07:16,000
consider an angel that has fallen from

1342
01:07:20,430 --> 01:07:17,790
somewhere that doesn't have light to be

1343
01:07:22,020 --> 01:07:20,440
and you know we have shadow figures we

1344
01:07:23,610 --> 01:07:22,030
have all this other stuff and if you're

1345
01:07:26,580 --> 01:07:23,620
religious like that like I said this is

1346
01:07:29,370 --> 01:07:26,590
really neat but you could correlate or

1347
01:07:31,170 --> 01:07:29,380
say hey look that's why we see shadow

1348
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:31,180
figures and we have entities that hide

1349
01:07:37,770 --> 01:07:32,650
in the darker because they just don't

1350
01:07:39,690 --> 01:07:37,780
like the light I think that right now

1351
01:07:44,730 --> 01:07:39,700
they're saying that the universe is made

1352
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:44,740
up of at least was it 70 or 80% of dark

1353
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:49,090
matter and dark energy so yeah I mean

1354
01:07:52,230 --> 01:07:50,530
it's two equals four you should keep

1355
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:52,240
with it I guess it's one night that's

1356
01:07:58,339 --> 01:07:53,890
all you so tell me sometimes I'm on the

1357
01:08:03,180 --> 01:08:01,950
like determines your philosophy I guess

1358
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:03,190
whether you're on the right page or the

1359
01:08:09,450 --> 01:08:07,930
wrong page the least I guess Darrell I

1360
01:08:10,530 --> 01:08:09,460
want to ask you where we're coming up we

1361
01:08:12,620 --> 01:08:10,540
got about four minutes until our

1362
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:12,630
breakout wouldn't you would you go out

1363
01:08:16,860 --> 01:08:14,890
ghost hunting with your cameras what

1364
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:16,870
kind of cameras do you use I mean you

1365
01:08:23,010 --> 01:08:19,810
know using anything special polarizing

1366
01:08:26,130 --> 01:08:23,020
filters and farad things like that well

1367
01:08:33,180 --> 01:08:26,140
I'll be honest with you uh Linda she

1368
01:08:38,329 --> 01:08:33,190
uses a $130 luminix camera I think it's

1369
01:08:42,950 --> 01:08:38,339
uh eight megapixel I have a Canon 16

1370
01:08:48,990 --> 01:08:42,960
megapixel sure shop and I just bought a

1371
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:49,000
really nice Canon camcorder so you know

1372
01:08:58,130 --> 01:08:51,850
you you don't have to go into high

1373
01:09:03,720 --> 01:08:58,140
dollar equipment to get these things

1374
01:09:07,050 --> 01:09:03,730
just ordinary cameras you know eight

1375
01:09:09,180 --> 01:09:07,060
eight megapixel or you know and bigger

1376
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:09,190
you know I would I would suggest to

1377
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:11,770
anyone didn't want to do this

1378
01:09:18,300 --> 01:09:16,210
no no special filters you know just out

1379
01:09:19,950 --> 01:09:18,310
of the box out of the store camera

1380
01:09:23,519 --> 01:09:19,960
mm-hmm

1381
01:09:26,789 --> 01:09:23,529
have you used film cameras so I mean is

1382
01:09:29,430 --> 01:09:26,799
there any difference between digital and

1383
01:09:32,309 --> 01:09:29,440
a film camera you know the ability to be

1384
01:09:33,329 --> 01:09:32,319
able to capture paranormal images no

1385
01:09:36,870 --> 01:09:33,339
there isn't

1386
01:09:41,190 --> 01:09:36,880
I have had SLR as I have you know the

1387
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:41,200
film cameras and and caught smoke of

1388
01:09:56,420 --> 01:09:50,290
called warps no really there isn't I had

1389
01:10:02,610 --> 01:09:56,430
I went to a st. Augustine and I had a

1390
01:10:05,490 --> 01:10:02,620
really good ghost picture and I went to

1391
01:10:08,430 --> 01:10:05,500
I was warned I knew what it was but I

1392
01:10:09,589 --> 01:10:08,440
was warning at professionals you know

1393
01:10:12,649 --> 01:10:09,599
opinion

1394
01:10:15,319 --> 01:10:12,659
so I took it to a photographer now says

1395
01:10:20,300 --> 01:10:15,329
what is this but he looked at and he

1396
01:10:25,910 --> 01:10:20,310
says well it couldn't be added he says

1397
01:10:29,030 --> 01:10:25,920
whatever was on your film it that it got

1398
01:10:34,910 --> 01:10:29,040
in between you know the camera lens and

1399
01:10:39,790 --> 01:10:34,920
it you know so whatever you take a

1400
01:10:43,490 --> 01:10:39,800
picture of like like entities orbs

1401
01:10:45,050 --> 01:10:43,500
that's usually you know like WYSIWYG you

1402
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:45,060
know what you see is what you get you

1403
01:10:51,530 --> 01:10:47,730
know and you don't have to have

1404
01:10:56,660 --> 01:10:51,540
Photoshop or any of that stuff to add it

1405
01:11:00,470 --> 01:10:56,670
on words and spirits are real and you

1406
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:00,480
know like my website you know says yeah

1407
01:11:05,689 --> 01:11:03,570
I am trying to prove it each and every

1408
01:11:08,810 --> 01:11:05,699
day you know and a lot of people you

1409
01:11:11,629 --> 01:11:08,820
know they don't believe spirits or orbs

1410
01:11:15,319 --> 01:11:11,639
they don't believe some of the pictures

1411
01:11:20,089 --> 01:11:15,329
but I'll tell you what everybody here in

1412
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:20,099
the Grange Park Illinois just about God

1413
01:11:25,370 --> 01:11:22,489
about 98% of them all convinced that

1414
01:11:28,910 --> 01:11:25,380
there is afterlife and it's real buddy

1415
01:11:31,250 --> 01:11:28,920
yeah all right well we need to go to our

1416
01:11:33,410 --> 01:11:31,260
break because that's definitely real so

1417
01:11:35,810 --> 01:11:33,420
when we come back we'll be at the last

1418
01:11:38,460 --> 01:11:35,820
segment of exploring the bizarre so stay

1419
01:11:45,190 --> 01:11:42,610
now back to exploring the bazaars with

1420
01:11:48,490 --> 01:11:45,200
two of the most electrifying researchers

1421
01:11:53,980 --> 01:11:48,500
in the Paranoid your hosts Timothy Becky

1422
01:11:56,770 --> 01:11:53,990
Lee panting Swift's all right welcome

1423
01:11:58,930 --> 01:11:56,780
back to the final segment of exploring

1424
01:12:00,790 --> 01:11:58,940
the bazaar and as always when we reach

1425
01:12:03,430 --> 01:12:00,800
this point it just amazes me how fast

1426
01:12:07,870 --> 01:12:03,440
time goes by when we have such

1427
01:12:10,150 --> 01:12:07,880
fascinating guests so Dean I wanted to

1428
01:12:15,490 --> 01:12:10,160
ask you now Darrell in a previous

1429
01:12:17,500 --> 01:12:15,500
segment had talked about how at least

1430
01:12:21,940 --> 01:12:17,510
one time maybe several times you know

1431
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:21,950
like unfriendly spirits or well maybe

1432
01:12:26,950 --> 01:12:23,570
just two friendly spirits I don't know

1433
01:12:32,950 --> 01:12:26,960
had had actually followed him home and

1434
01:12:35,890 --> 01:12:32,960
I've seen some of these reality ghost

1435
01:12:38,790 --> 01:12:35,900
hunting shows where you've you you you

1436
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:38,800
have the investigators and I'll put

1437
01:12:45,700 --> 01:12:42,410
quotation marks around that word they'll

1438
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:45,710
go to these places and they'll yell at

1439
01:12:50,290 --> 01:12:48,170
the spirits or call them bad names or

1440
01:12:52,870 --> 01:12:50,300
you know actually even go as far as to

1441
01:12:55,090 --> 01:12:52,880
invite them to come home with them and

1442
01:12:57,630 --> 01:12:55,100
to me that just sounds just that's just

1443
01:13:00,340 --> 01:12:57,640
so reckless I mean you know have you had

1444
01:13:02,580 --> 01:13:00,350
similar experiences to you know what

1445
01:13:05,050 --> 01:13:02,590
what Darryl has talking about or

1446
01:13:08,530 --> 01:13:05,060
have you been you know lucky and you

1447
01:13:09,910 --> 01:13:08,540
know kept yourself fairly protected well

1448
01:13:13,450 --> 01:13:09,920
I guess I've been lucky and kept myself

1449
01:13:14,650 --> 01:13:13,460
fairly protected like I said he said you

1450
01:13:16,270 --> 01:13:14,660
know sometimes ghost hunters were

1451
01:13:17,620 --> 01:13:16,280
special my mom used to say I was real

1452
01:13:18,310 --> 01:13:17,630
special when I was a child so maybe

1453
01:13:20,340 --> 01:13:18,320
that's it

1454
01:13:23,110 --> 01:13:20,350
they just don't want to go home with me

1455
01:13:25,450 --> 01:13:23,120
I have had some experiences out there

1456
01:13:28,510 --> 01:13:25,460
where there had been spirits just went

1457
01:13:29,710 --> 01:13:28,520
home with people one in particular was a

1458
01:13:31,180 --> 01:13:29,720
friend of mine at the Bowling Green

1459
01:13:35,530 --> 01:13:31,190
Kentucky he's actually a ghost Turner

1460
01:13:37,150 --> 01:13:35,540
himself he well a couple years ago he

1461
01:13:39,370 --> 01:13:37,160
did a couple shows with me they called

1462
01:13:41,770 --> 01:13:39,380
him Kentucky the seeing ghost hunter

1463
01:13:43,870 --> 01:13:41,780
because he was a karaoke guy and a

1464
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:43,880
terrible voice but he did sing sometimes

1465
01:13:48,580 --> 01:13:46,130
and scared a lot of people away that's a

1466
01:13:51,129 --> 01:13:48,590
totally different subject but he was at

1467
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:51,139
the octagon house in Franklin Kentucky

1468
01:13:55,389 --> 01:13:54,050
they had a spiritual medium there who I

1469
01:13:56,830 --> 01:13:55,399
think she doesn't like every year on

1470
01:13:58,839 --> 01:13:56,840
Halloween you know how these haunted

1471
01:14:01,509 --> 01:13:58,849
houses have their big Halloween haunted

1472
01:14:04,209 --> 01:14:01,519
house extravaganza or whatever isn't

1473
01:14:05,529 --> 01:14:04,219
really and he was there doing that he

1474
01:14:07,959 --> 01:14:05,539
walked around her and then when he went

1475
01:14:10,989 --> 01:14:07,969
home he woke up in the middle of night

1476
01:14:14,469 --> 01:14:10,999
joking and he said that he looked up and

1477
01:14:16,899 --> 01:14:14,479
there was a dark entity above him that

1478
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:16,909
was just standing there and he said it

1479
01:14:21,159 --> 01:14:18,489
was it looked like a Civil War soldier

1480
01:14:24,009 --> 01:14:21,169
that would have been injured world

1481
01:14:25,509 --> 01:14:24,019
famous headless horseman I guess but it

1482
01:14:28,689 --> 01:14:25,519
was standing above him and he told it it

1483
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:28,699
had to go home and his girlfriend woke

1484
01:14:32,889 --> 01:14:30,050
up and said that he was talking in

1485
01:14:35,279 --> 01:14:32,899
somebody else's voice and the gentleman

1486
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:35,289
told me that what happened was that he

1487
01:14:40,020 --> 01:14:37,610
began speaking but he didn't know what

1488
01:14:42,819 --> 01:14:40,030
he was saying and it wasn't his voice so

1489
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:42,829
there is instances I know of it and

1490
01:14:46,179 --> 01:14:44,090
there's other things that's happened

1491
01:14:49,330 --> 01:14:46,189
like that too but there is a lot of a

1492
01:14:52,029 --> 01:14:49,340
lot of that going on that people don't

1493
01:14:53,229 --> 01:14:52,039
really realize and the ghost shows I

1494
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:53,239
mean I got say something about those are

1495
01:14:55,750 --> 01:14:54,530
probably the worst things that for the

1496
01:14:57,189 --> 01:14:55,760
paranormal world you could ever think

1497
01:15:00,219 --> 01:14:57,199
yes thank you

1498
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:00,229
yeah yes I have and I'm not going to

1499
01:15:02,889 --> 01:15:01,610
mention any shows but I've went behind

1500
01:15:05,049 --> 01:15:02,899
some of those shows and done

1501
01:15:08,169 --> 01:15:05,059
investigations and the people on those

1502
01:15:10,719 --> 01:15:08,179
you know those haunted places they go to

1503
01:15:12,250 --> 01:15:10,729
can take some serious stories about when

1504
01:15:13,929 --> 01:15:12,260
they don't catch stuff what they do to

1505
01:15:16,299 --> 01:15:13,939
catch stuff down the road and they call

1506
01:15:18,909 --> 01:15:16,309
it drama to dramatize our dramatization

1507
01:15:22,239 --> 01:15:18,919
or something or a sensation yeah yeah to

1508
01:15:25,209 --> 01:15:22,249
keep the ratings up and you know if you

1509
01:15:27,339 --> 01:15:25,219
guys I've been on a lot of ghost hunts

1510
01:15:30,370 --> 01:15:27,349
and and I've been on a lot of

1511
01:15:31,839 --> 01:15:30,380
investigations those guys catch more

1512
01:15:33,639 --> 01:15:31,849
than anybody I've ever seen in my life

1513
01:15:35,199 --> 01:15:33,649
and they get possessed more than anybody

1514
01:15:36,850 --> 01:15:35,209
I've seen in my life like it's scratched

1515
01:15:39,819 --> 01:15:36,860
more than anybody seen in my life

1516
01:15:41,049 --> 01:15:39,829
I just my personal opinion is they're

1517
01:15:42,580 --> 01:15:41,059
probably one of the worst things for the

1518
01:15:44,109 --> 01:15:42,590
paranormal world there is because when

1519
01:15:46,359 --> 01:15:44,119
people that don't believe look at those

1520
01:15:47,290 --> 01:15:46,369
things the first thing they say is these

1521
01:15:51,179 --> 01:15:47,300
guys are crazy

1522
01:15:53,199 --> 01:15:51,189
and he legitimizes everything we do I

1523
01:15:54,159 --> 01:15:53,209
just had to put that plug in there

1524
01:15:58,209 --> 01:15:54,169
because you guys were talking about

1525
01:16:01,120 --> 01:15:58,219
shelves and stuff no no no fact what

1526
01:16:03,159 --> 01:16:01,130
you're saying though it is a and I tell

1527
01:16:04,299 --> 01:16:03,169
this to everybody we did I said like a

1528
01:16:04,930 --> 01:16:04,309
beginning here we don't know what we're

1529
01:16:07,930 --> 01:16:04,940
dealing with

1530
01:16:10,180 --> 01:16:07,940
and a lot of times and I'm sure the

1531
01:16:11,440 --> 01:16:10,190
other guests will verify this force too

1532
01:16:14,110 --> 01:16:11,450
when people go out and they take

1533
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:14,120
photographs and stuff they really need

1534
01:16:16,660 --> 01:16:15,170
to know what they're photographing

1535
01:16:18,940 --> 01:16:16,670
before they presented his evidence

1536
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:18,950
because and I was even the state when I

1537
01:16:22,330 --> 01:16:20,690
first started out I took some pictures I

1538
01:16:24,730 --> 01:16:22,340
thought oh look it I've got this smoke

1539
01:16:26,230 --> 01:16:24,740
cloud that they're talking about but

1540
01:16:28,450 --> 01:16:26,240
then I realized I took the pictures in

1541
01:16:29,860 --> 01:16:28,460
30-degree weather and I was breathing so

1542
01:16:32,980 --> 01:16:29,870
when I was actually taking pictures of

1543
01:16:34,810 --> 01:16:32,990
us my own breath and professional

1544
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:34,820
photographers like our guest doesn't do

1545
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:37,930
things like this but a lot of newcomers

1546
01:16:43,150 --> 01:16:40,370
they'll see stuff like shadow figures

1547
01:16:45,130 --> 01:16:43,160
and well just an example that just

1548
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:45,140
recently went to a school I'm not going

1549
01:16:48,580 --> 01:16:47,090
to name the name of it but and they were

1550
01:16:50,290 --> 01:16:48,590
saying they had this shadow figure that

1551
01:16:52,780 --> 01:16:50,300
would go in front of this door back and

1552
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:52,790
forth and I reproduced the shadow figure

1553
01:16:57,070 --> 01:16:54,290
in two seconds because there was a metal

1554
01:16:58,480 --> 01:16:57,080
plate inside the door and down the

1555
01:16:59,770 --> 01:16:58,490
hallway there was a door that opened up

1556
01:17:01,350 --> 01:16:59,780
and the light would shine through it so

1557
01:17:03,850 --> 01:17:01,360
when you walked in from that metal plate

1558
01:17:07,420 --> 01:17:03,860
behind you guess what you have a shadow

1559
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:07,430
figure hmm so it's important if you're

1560
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:09,530
going to take pictures and you're going

1561
01:17:14,620 --> 01:17:12,050
to present evidence out there don't be a

1562
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:14,630
reality show do the real thing do your

1563
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:15,410
research

1564
01:17:19,150 --> 01:17:17,090
protect yourself because you don't know

1565
01:17:21,460 --> 01:17:19,160
what you're dealing with and above all

1566
01:17:23,290 --> 01:17:21,470
you know like I said before don't try to

1567
01:17:27,790 --> 01:17:23,300
swim in a river if you don't know how to

1568
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:27,800
swim learn the facts before you go well

1569
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:30,290
I think I think a lot of people who see

1570
01:17:36,010 --> 01:17:33,770
these Riyaz reality shows and start

1571
01:17:38,380 --> 01:17:36,020
their own you know say like your ghost

1572
01:17:40,690 --> 01:17:38,390
hunting club or whatever you would want

1573
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:40,700
to call it end up becoming disillusioned

1574
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:43,370
because they don't get the results that

1575
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:48,290
they're seeing on television and the

1576
01:17:51,790 --> 01:17:50,210
spirit boxes everybody hears about how

1577
01:17:53,890 --> 01:17:51,800
those and you know what I'm talking

1578
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:53,900
about below yeah box that goes through

1579
01:17:58,270 --> 01:17:56,330
the radio frequencies what a lot of

1580
01:18:00,130 --> 01:17:58,280
people do not know when they use a

1581
01:18:01,990 --> 01:18:00,140
spirit box and they do not show it on

1582
01:18:04,750 --> 01:18:02,000
the shows is that spirit box picks up

1583
01:18:06,190 --> 01:18:04,760
all kinds of radio stations you can hear

1584
01:18:08,500 --> 01:18:06,200
the radio stations as it goes through

1585
01:18:09,910 --> 01:18:08,510
it's all like they want a certain

1586
01:18:11,290 --> 01:18:09,920
reality show they used a lot of times

1587
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:11,300
you never hear anything but static and

1588
01:18:17,050 --> 01:18:12,650
and I'll send you'll hear and noise come

1589
01:18:19,180 --> 01:18:17,060
out that's edited you will hear

1590
01:18:21,030 --> 01:18:19,190
things that you think are ghosts and

1591
01:18:23,770 --> 01:18:21,040
they're not they're actually radio

1592
01:18:26,290 --> 01:18:23,780
programs that are I have one person that

1593
01:18:27,850 --> 01:18:26,300
thought they heard a ghost through the

1594
01:18:30,820 --> 01:18:27,860
spirit box and I'd listen to it real

1595
01:18:35,170 --> 01:18:30,830
closely it said something like wk CT mmm

1596
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:35,180
no that's a radio station and there is a

1597
01:18:39,790 --> 01:18:38,330
technique that that we use right now and

1598
01:18:43,540 --> 01:18:39,800
actually Denise look doesn't want it

1599
01:18:45,310 --> 01:18:43,550
that created this technique but a lot of

1600
01:18:47,950 --> 01:18:45,320
people if you're first starting out in

1601
01:18:49,870 --> 01:18:47,960
ghost hunting if you have one person

1602
01:18:52,810 --> 01:18:49,880
that holds the spirit box and actually

1603
01:18:55,630 --> 01:18:52,820
puts a headset in it and listens and the

1604
01:18:57,190 --> 01:18:55,640
other person speaks it whatever the

1605
01:18:59,560 --> 01:18:57,200
person hears they can blurt out the

1606
01:19:00,730 --> 01:18:59,570
answer and that will correlate what

1607
01:19:03,010 --> 01:19:00,740
you're saying so if you say is there

1608
01:19:05,740 --> 01:19:03,020
anybody here and then the person says my

1609
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:05,750
name is Jack and they heard that on the

1610
01:19:10,330 --> 01:19:07,130
spirit box they have no idea what

1611
01:19:11,740 --> 01:19:10,340
question you asked so then you can

1612
01:19:13,330 --> 01:19:11,750
verify whether you're actually

1613
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:13,340
communicating or you're here in a radio

1614
01:19:22,330 --> 01:19:19,010
station we had we had a guest not too

1615
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:22,340
long ago they've got a a YouTube channel

1616
01:19:26,980 --> 01:19:24,650
called what was a tip like the

1617
01:19:32,020 --> 01:19:26,990
naughty-naughty a ghost box or something

1618
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:32,030
like that yeah yeah but they they put up

1619
01:19:38,440 --> 01:19:35,210
these the results that they get where

1620
01:19:41,350 --> 01:19:38,450
the the spirits or whatever you know it

1621
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:41,360
is it's talking to them uses language

1622
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:44,210
that's not not really appropriate and

1623
01:19:49,420 --> 01:19:45,770
and definitely language that you

1624
01:19:51,910 --> 01:19:49,430
wouldn't find being broadcast over most

1625
01:19:53,530 --> 01:19:51,920
radio stations and I don't know then you

1626
01:19:55,750 --> 01:19:53,540
got to be very careful of - and you have

1627
01:19:57,310 --> 01:19:55,760
a spirit that starts cussing you you're

1628
01:20:00,310 --> 01:19:57,320
probably not dealing with a very happy

1629
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:00,320
spirit I don't think they go out they're

1630
01:20:03,700 --> 01:20:01,730
just you know cuss you out for no reason

1631
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:03,710
there's a reason they do it usually well

1632
01:20:17,770 --> 01:20:14,140
me I come up with some words you never

1633
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:17,780
got in your you have but then you know

1634
01:20:20,620 --> 01:20:19,250
that's going to get edited out by the

1635
01:20:23,650 --> 01:20:20,630
editor so it doesn't do you any good

1636
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:23,660
just mine oh oh yeah we're with it were

1637
01:20:30,359 --> 01:20:27,890
the editors we cut nothing yeah we're

1638
01:20:35,100 --> 01:20:30,369
not we're not regulated by the f

1639
01:20:37,859 --> 01:20:35,110
see see I mean now no matter we can and

1640
01:20:40,770 --> 01:20:37,869
we broadcast from Las Vegas what could

1641
01:20:45,770 --> 01:20:40,780
you possibly say why everybody's here

1642
01:20:50,850 --> 01:20:49,620
hey you know I I was in the town there's

1643
01:20:53,729 --> 01:20:50,860
a town that's supposed to be the most

1644
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:53,739
haunted town in America I'm sure some

1645
01:20:58,500 --> 01:20:56,770
people some places make that plain where

1646
01:21:02,660 --> 01:20:58,510
there are more spirits than there are

1647
01:21:05,790 --> 01:21:02,670
humans it is the town of Jerome Arizona

1648
01:21:11,330 --> 01:21:05,800
which is halfway between Tucson and

1649
01:21:14,750 --> 01:21:11,340
Sedona and it's known for the ghosts of

1650
01:21:20,580 --> 01:21:17,450
firefighters because there were five

1651
01:21:22,470 --> 01:21:20,590
different the fire zone were talking

1652
01:21:23,910 --> 01:21:22,480
about a hundred years ago a hundred

1653
01:21:28,890 --> 01:21:23,920
years or so

1654
01:21:31,070 --> 01:21:28,900
and people who died in the asylum there

1655
01:21:33,629 --> 01:21:31,080
or went crazy there because there was a

1656
01:21:36,959 --> 01:21:33,639
an asylum that I think is now a hotel

1657
01:21:41,070 --> 01:21:36,969
and furthermore the the ghosts and

1658
01:21:43,589 --> 01:21:41,080
spirits of prostitutes because there

1659
01:21:48,300 --> 01:21:43,599
were a heck of a lot of prostitutes in

1660
01:21:52,109 --> 01:21:48,310
the town of Jerome to service the the

1661
01:21:56,459 --> 01:21:52,119
gentlemen it was known as one of the

1662
01:22:00,180 --> 01:21:56,469
richest mining towns in America until

1663
01:22:03,959 --> 01:22:00,190
the town slid down the side of the hill

1664
01:22:07,109 --> 01:22:03,969
and that worked out a lot of people -

1665
01:22:10,370 --> 01:22:07,119
not as many as the fire but they slid

1666
01:22:14,700 --> 01:22:10,380
right on down but you can visit the town

1667
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:14,710
today and they will take you on what the

1668
01:22:21,419 --> 01:22:17,650
purports to be authentic and goes tours

1669
01:22:25,830 --> 01:22:21,429
of drunk and so there are more spirits

1670
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:25,840
there then there are the Living Well you

1671
01:22:30,959 --> 01:22:28,690
know Kentucky is full of ghosts Ares

1672
01:22:32,550 --> 01:22:30,969
like that too and the reason that it's

1673
01:22:35,609 --> 01:22:32,560
like that is because let's take the

1674
01:22:36,990 --> 01:22:35,619
Mammoth Cave region for example and you

1675
01:22:39,300 --> 01:22:37,000
go to these cold countries where the

1676
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:39,310
coal mines have taken over there used to

1677
01:22:42,629 --> 01:22:41,050
be communities at these places we're

1678
01:22:43,950 --> 01:22:42,639
getting ready to investigating one here

1679
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:43,960
called Paradise

1680
01:22:48,090 --> 01:22:46,449
city which is on I want to say rough

1681
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:48,100
River no it's on Green River in

1682
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:51,370
Muhlenberg County Kentucky and there was

1683
01:22:54,510 --> 01:22:52,810
actually a town there with a haunted

1684
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:54,520
hotel but when Peabody called took it

1685
01:22:58,320 --> 01:22:56,290
over they wiped the town out completely

1686
01:23:00,660 --> 01:22:58,330
they left the old Civil War prisoner

1687
01:23:03,870 --> 01:23:00,670
which used to be a steel mill and it

1688
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:03,880
still has the the chimneys and stuff to

1689
01:23:07,590 --> 01:23:05,890
it we're going to investigate that but

1690
01:23:08,850 --> 01:23:07,600
we've got a lot of haunted locations

1691
01:23:10,110 --> 01:23:08,860
like that where there's a lot of

1692
01:23:12,060 --> 01:23:10,120
restless spirits do they let the

1693
01:23:14,550 --> 01:23:12,070
cemeteries they tore down the churches

1694
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:14,560
they tore down the towns but they had to

1695
01:23:18,419 --> 01:23:16,570
leave the cemeteries and you could be

1696
01:23:20,850 --> 01:23:18,429
walking through especially in Eastern

1697
01:23:22,229 --> 01:23:20,860
Kentucky and in the coal countries you

1698
01:23:23,669 --> 01:23:22,239
can walk through the woods and actually

1699
01:23:25,740 --> 01:23:23,679
come up on cemeteries that are just

1700
01:23:27,750 --> 01:23:25,750
being overgrown with trees and stuff and

1701
01:23:28,709 --> 01:23:27,760
there are good places to ghost hunt I

1702
01:23:30,270 --> 01:23:28,719
don't think I'd want to live there for

1703
01:23:38,430 --> 01:23:30,280
eternity but they're good places to

1704
01:23:41,910 --> 01:23:38,440
ghost time mm-hmm so uh Darryl when you

1705
01:23:44,669 --> 01:23:41,920
are getting ready to to go out to a

1706
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:44,679
location I mean how do you how do you

1707
01:23:50,490 --> 01:23:47,770
prepare I mean you know uh what do you

1708
01:23:55,830 --> 01:23:50,500
do to make sure that you're ready for

1709
01:23:59,430 --> 01:23:55,840
any likelihood when you're going to a an

1710
01:24:02,640 --> 01:23:59,440
investigation well I'll make sure that

1711
01:24:06,419 --> 01:24:02,650
my equipment is up and running good the

1712
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:06,429
batteries are fully charged but when I

1713
01:24:20,100 --> 01:24:13,690
go out I try to debunk my own self I try

1714
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:20,110
to get a make sure that the lens on

1715
01:24:27,660 --> 01:24:24,090
everything is white probably about every

1716
01:24:31,950 --> 01:24:27,670
five minutes or so or less I wipe them

1717
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:31,960
down I keep my camera when I take

1718
01:24:39,780 --> 01:24:35,770
pictures at arm's length you know even

1719
01:24:44,550 --> 01:24:39,790
you like the Kentucky yeah ghosts are

1720
01:24:51,930 --> 01:24:44,560
said a lot of people will film their own

1721
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:51,940
breath if they if the ghost owners would

1722
01:24:57,570 --> 01:24:54,130
keep their hand you know keep the camera

1723
01:25:01,230 --> 01:24:57,580
at arm's length then

1724
01:25:05,460 --> 01:25:01,240
there's no way especially when you I've

1725
01:25:10,100 --> 01:25:05,470
learned to breathe shallow because I

1726
01:25:13,590 --> 01:25:10,110
don't I do everything in my knowledge to

1727
01:25:17,490 --> 01:25:13,600
make sure that what I'm doing is

1728
01:25:22,130 --> 01:25:17,500
absolutely correct so you know when I

1729
01:25:25,140 --> 01:25:22,140
take a picture that picture is

1730
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:25,150
absolutely 100% when I'm taking a

1731
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:29,250
picture of without the possibility of

1732
01:25:41,070 --> 01:25:37,330
breath a smudge on the the lens I double

1733
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:41,080
check myself every moment that I'm out

1734
01:25:49,770 --> 01:25:45,730
on a location because I do my thing is

1735
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:49,780
is I want to prove to people that what

1736
01:25:57,630 --> 01:25:53,410
they're seeing is real and I go to great

1737
01:26:01,200 --> 01:25:57,640
lengths to make sure that what I'm doing

1738
01:26:03,630 --> 01:26:01,210
is absolutely correct without question

1739
01:26:06,870 --> 01:26:03,640
without anybody coming back well this

1740
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:06,880
and that and that and that no this is

1741
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:10,330
true and this is real because I've been

1742
01:26:20,420 --> 01:26:14,130
doing this for so long that that I do

1743
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:20,430
everything according to as you say as

1744
01:26:27,870 --> 01:26:23,050
perfect a picture as you could possibly

1745
01:26:31,340 --> 01:26:27,880
get all right if we have a question from

1746
01:26:36,060 --> 01:26:31,350
Barbara and Barbara wants to know and

1747
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:36,070
this goes out to both of you do do your

1748
01:26:40,770 --> 01:26:38,050
guests think spirits are attached to

1749
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:40,780
buildings or objects and she says I mean

1750
01:26:44,820 --> 01:26:42,250
there have been reports of buildings

1751
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:44,830
being haunted and then torn down do

1752
01:26:52,290 --> 01:26:47,050
these spirits now leave or will they

1753
01:26:57,150 --> 01:26:52,300
attach to the new building well I

1754
01:27:00,480 --> 01:26:57,160
believe that the spirit is just say

1755
01:27:06,510 --> 01:27:00,490
hypothetically if they had died in the

1756
01:27:10,709 --> 01:27:06,520
house or on the property my knowledge is

1757
01:27:12,270 --> 01:27:10,719
they they hang around for well

1758
01:27:15,530 --> 01:27:12,280
and until they move on to whatever

1759
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:15,540
plateau that they're moving - because

1760
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:22,810
I've visited a lot of old places and you

1761
01:27:29,850 --> 01:27:24,730
know they got torn down and though you

1762
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:29,860
go back again and you still see orbs and

1763
01:27:36,810 --> 01:27:33,810
shadows and different figures you know I

1764
01:27:40,650 --> 01:27:36,820
would say they still hang around no

1765
01:27:46,380 --> 01:27:40,660
matter what all right Dean what about

1766
01:27:48,450 --> 01:27:46,390
you I've experienced some things as far

1767
01:27:49,350 --> 01:27:48,460
as what they call attachments to objects

1768
01:27:53,130 --> 01:27:49,360
and stuff like that

1769
01:27:55,590 --> 01:27:53,140
and what I have a lot of times that I

1770
01:27:59,250 --> 01:27:55,600
found I voices appears from people in

1771
01:28:01,680 --> 01:27:59,260
the past and if you think about what I

1772
01:28:04,740 --> 01:28:01,690
said before about dark entities they

1773
01:28:07,170 --> 01:28:04,750
have a hard time dealing with light a

1774
01:28:08,550 --> 01:28:07,180
lot of times attached objects you're

1775
01:28:10,140 --> 01:28:08,560
dealing with an energy particle you're

1776
01:28:12,689 --> 01:28:10,150
not dealing with an actual person a lot

1777
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:12,699
of people confuse that which energy you

1778
01:28:17,490 --> 01:28:14,770
can manipulate energy if I had a can of

1779
01:28:18,630 --> 01:28:17,500
coke sitting here if you were a large

1780
01:28:20,580 --> 01:28:18,640
ball of energy you could actually

1781
01:28:23,490 --> 01:28:20,590
condense yourself and go into the can of

1782
01:28:26,270 --> 01:28:23,500
coke and the reason I brought that up is

1783
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:26,280
because a lot of times these entities

1784
01:28:32,070 --> 01:28:29,290
that can't stand the light will actually

1785
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:32,080
enter into objects where it's darker so

1786
01:28:35,220 --> 01:28:33,850
they can survive without I would say I

1787
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:35,230
don't want to say Pink's I don't believe

1788
01:28:39,470 --> 01:28:37,330
it's a pain I don't really know what it

1789
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:39,480
is but they can survive in dark places

1790
01:28:44,100 --> 01:28:41,770
so a lot of times like you see a doll

1791
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:44,110
it's possessed by something the reason I

1792
01:28:47,130 --> 01:28:45,489
think of the possession is because

1793
01:28:49,110 --> 01:28:47,140
something's went inside of it to keep

1794
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:49,120
out of the light that's why you see

1795
01:28:53,459 --> 01:28:51,130
mostly dark figures shadow figures at

1796
01:28:55,140 --> 01:28:53,469
night it's because they're hiding during

1797
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:55,150
the day and they don't really want to

1798
01:28:59,040 --> 01:28:56,890
come out during the day because it

1799
01:29:01,410 --> 01:28:59,050
affects them somehow that doesn't affect

1800
01:29:05,010 --> 01:29:01,420
regular things so when a haunted house

1801
01:29:06,510 --> 01:29:05,020
is consumed or whatever it is by spirits

1802
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:06,520
or several spirits I believe when it's

1803
01:29:10,830 --> 01:29:08,770
tore down they'll either enter into an

1804
01:29:12,870 --> 01:29:10,840
object or go into another location in

1805
01:29:15,900 --> 01:29:12,880
this area that we're getting ready to

1806
01:29:18,570 --> 01:29:15,910
investigate called paradise the haunted

1807
01:29:21,209 --> 01:29:18,580
hotel was tore down and soon as the

1808
01:29:23,130 --> 01:29:21,219
haunted hotel was tore down then the

1809
01:29:24,390 --> 01:29:23,140
Confederate prison became the haunted

1810
01:29:27,180 --> 01:29:24,400
location

1811
01:29:29,190 --> 01:29:27,190
that's kind of moving from one speck to

1812
01:29:30,540 --> 01:29:29,200
another in my opinion like I said I

1813
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:30,550
could be wrong because we really don't

1814
01:29:36,990 --> 01:29:32,890
know anything yet no that's how I for my

1815
01:29:40,110 --> 01:29:37,000
investigations I see hey you know if you

1816
01:29:43,140 --> 01:29:40,120
could do that investigation on a

1817
01:29:45,750 --> 01:29:43,150
Thursday night at the attentive midnight

1818
01:29:48,330 --> 01:29:45,760
the eastern we'd be happy to a broadcast

1819
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:48,340
at least part of it I think that would

1820
01:29:57,870 --> 01:29:55,330
be a you know we have to we were going

1821
01:30:00,390 --> 01:29:57,880
to go by boat but we found out because

1822
01:30:02,910 --> 01:30:00,400
the talents built right on the river but

1823
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:02,920
over the time the the legend is corroded

1824
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:05,050
and it's now a sheer Mountain so we're

1825
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:06,370
going to have to walk through the woods

1826
01:30:10,530 --> 01:30:08,050
tomorrow and a half with all our

1827
01:30:11,670 --> 01:30:10,540
equipment to get there but once we get

1828
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:11,680
there and light the fire because there's

1829
01:30:15,990 --> 01:30:14,410
no electricity we'll be glad to call you

1830
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:16,000
guys up on cell phones they do have cell

1831
01:30:22,890 --> 01:30:20,290
phone service if it's a Thursday night

1832
01:30:25,350 --> 01:30:22,900
they just give us an advance notice and

1833
01:30:27,510 --> 01:30:25,360
we'll we'll do a segment at least I'd be

1834
01:30:29,010 --> 01:30:27,520
glad to because we've also got there's

1835
01:30:30,270 --> 01:30:29,020
going to be a couple of we're probably

1836
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:30,280
gonna do it in October and there's a

1837
01:30:36,690 --> 01:30:33,010
couple of newspapers going with us or

1838
01:30:39,090 --> 01:30:36,700
some other people - yeah good good for

1839
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:39,100
you know you do you have a youtube

1840
01:30:46,650 --> 01:30:43,210
channel no no no you know I've been

1841
01:30:47,970 --> 01:30:46,660
asked and asked and asked but I just

1842
01:30:50,370 --> 01:30:47,980
haven't done it yet we probably are

1843
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:50,380
going to do it but we do have like

1844
01:30:53,940 --> 01:30:52,570
Kentucky go center coms our website and

1845
01:30:55,740 --> 01:30:53,950
you can find the guy thank you go start

1846
01:30:57,720 --> 01:30:55,750
on Facebook and we got a group all the

1847
01:30:59,580 --> 01:30:57,730
Kentucky ghost town so you know

1848
01:31:01,920 --> 01:30:59,590
sometimes we put videos on we don't but

1849
01:31:04,350 --> 01:31:01,930
we're about ways away from being talked

1850
01:31:08,850 --> 01:31:04,360
into doing a YouTube oh okay well you

1851
01:31:12,510 --> 01:31:08,860
know we make a YouTube this show is not

1852
01:31:14,580 --> 01:31:12,520
only archived on k cor radio.com which

1853
01:31:18,900 --> 01:31:14,590
of course originates the show every

1854
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:18,910
Thursday night but we also are archived

1855
01:31:27,300 --> 01:31:23,770
there put up on stitcher itunes google

1856
01:31:30,180 --> 01:31:27,310
play and we have our own YouTube channel

1857
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:30,190
which is mr. UFO mr. UFO secret files

1858
01:31:38,250 --> 01:31:35,410
and there are associate Peter adds some

1859
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:38,260
graphics so we'll probably with your

1860
01:31:43,140 --> 01:31:40,570
both of you look up a couple of photos

1861
01:31:45,390 --> 01:31:43,150
from your a website and as you were

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talking people listen to you

1863
01:31:49,890 --> 01:31:47,769
I think they will be able to see some of

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the graphics that involve what we spoken

1865
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of this evening

1866
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so we liked it we like to keep it visual

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01:32:04,770 --> 01:31:56,050
where our audio we'd like to keep our

1868
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audio as visual as possible well on the

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website that smoke yeah yeah talk about

1870
01:32:12,089 --> 01:32:10,179
we've got one of those on our website

1871
01:32:15,450 --> 01:32:12,099
too where it's actually shows a couple

1872
01:32:17,100 --> 01:32:15,460
faces in it's very distinct Ritchie

1873
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:17,110
Ritchie Blackmore must have been

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thinking that when he wrote the song

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smoke on the water you know I hate to

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say this I guess he's still alive but

1877
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Ritchie Blackmore is one of the few

1878
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artists that I ever walked out of a live

1879
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concert on but because they were known

1880
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was a deep purple right they were right

1881
01:32:48,089 --> 01:32:44,409
they were known for having the loudest

1882
01:32:51,419 --> 01:32:48,099
audio of any I guess of performing a

1883
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group and I was alert either backstage

1884
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or in the first couple of rows and boy

1885
01:33:01,680 --> 01:32:57,099
that was allowed so if there was smoke

1886
01:33:03,270 --> 01:33:01,690
on the water I never saw it alright imp

1887
01:33:05,370 --> 01:33:03,280
we got about three minutes left in the

1888
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program so we better better go around

1889
01:33:12,450 --> 01:33:09,789
and find out from our guest where our

1890
01:33:14,850 --> 01:33:12,460
audience can learn more about you your

1891
01:33:16,910 --> 01:33:14,860
websites upcoming appearances things

1892
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:16,920
like that so Darryl let's start with you

1893
01:33:25,859 --> 01:33:20,650
well I have a website paranormal

1894
01:33:30,450 --> 01:33:25,869
evidence consulting.com it has quite a

1895
01:33:32,879 --> 01:33:30,460
few pictures that are excellent I keep

1896
01:33:38,689 --> 01:33:32,889
adding more pictures to it you know

1897
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:38,699
whenever I go out and get good stuff and

1898
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my partner

1899
01:33:49,389 --> 01:33:44,260
Linda wolf Elise she's a wonderful asset

1900
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to to what I'm doing so

1901
01:33:55,929 --> 01:33:54,079
glad to have her loan very good and Dean

1902
01:33:57,790 --> 01:33:55,939
what about you well it's pretty simple

1903
01:34:00,100 --> 01:33:57,800
the website is Kentucky ghost hunter

1904
01:34:01,810 --> 01:34:00,110
calm it's there's no D in front of it's

1905
01:34:04,060 --> 01:34:01,820
just Kentucky ghost hunter calm and if

1906
01:34:05,919 --> 01:34:04,070
you want to go to Facebook then the D

1907
01:34:08,379 --> 01:34:05,929
appears it's the Kentucky ghost hunter

1908
01:34:09,759 --> 01:34:08,389
and the group discussion also is the

1909
01:34:11,589 --> 01:34:09,769
Kentucky get started but I just wanted

1910
01:34:12,850 --> 01:34:11,599
to give a shout out to my wife Chris I

1911
01:34:14,109 --> 01:34:12,860
love you very much and thank you for

1912
01:34:16,060 --> 01:34:14,119
letting me stay up so late to talk to

1913
01:34:19,569 --> 01:34:16,070
these fine folks usually I'm in bed by

1914
01:34:21,489 --> 01:34:19,579
9:00 out here in the country wow I'm up

1915
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:21,499
to 6:00 in the morning but hey you know

1916
01:34:27,100 --> 01:34:23,570
we got to give a shout out and thank you

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01:34:31,239 --> 01:34:27,110
to our staff you know our producer and

1918
01:34:32,589 --> 01:34:31,249
engineer a Peter our animator and

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01:34:37,330 --> 01:34:32,599
YouTube

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chief dead Carol who makes sure that I

1921
01:34:39,850 --> 01:34:39,139
get everything organized as much as

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01:34:42,369 --> 01:34:39,860
possible

1923
01:34:46,989 --> 01:34:42,379
Michelle Helen I'm sure that I've

1924
01:34:50,020 --> 01:34:46,999
forgotten somebody and I guess our

1925
01:34:52,119 --> 01:34:50,030
friends in the the other the other

1926
01:34:55,959 --> 01:34:52,129
worlds the paranormal universes them and

1927
01:34:58,989 --> 01:34:55,969
and you anybody like show no oh well I

1928
01:35:01,089 --> 01:34:58,999
just I was just like to remind everybody

1929
01:35:03,189 --> 01:35:01,099
that when they have a chance to go visit

1930
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:03,199
our website which is conspiracy journal

1931
01:35:07,810 --> 01:35:05,449
calm I don't get a chance to tell people

1932
01:35:09,669 --> 01:35:07,820
that very often there and that sign up

1933
01:35:12,609 --> 01:35:09,679
yeah I sign up for our free newsletter

1934
01:35:14,409 --> 01:35:12,619
because it's been going on now for gosh

1935
01:35:18,060 --> 01:35:14,419
I think almost twenty years at this

1936
01:35:23,549 --> 01:35:18,070
point so yeah you know and also to

1937
01:35:25,779 --> 01:35:23,559
Tesla's lab calm because Tim is written

1938
01:35:27,310 --> 01:35:25,789
probably the best-selling book on Nikola

1939
01:35:29,469 --> 01:35:27,320
Tesla in the last three years and was

1940
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:29,479
colonel significant Destler and we have

1941
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:33,530
a new book out the Tesla's purple energy

1942
01:35:36,399 --> 01:35:34,489
lates

1943
01:35:40,089 --> 01:35:36,409
and you can get of course all of our

1944
01:35:42,939 --> 01:35:40,099
books on Amazon our blogs are up there I

1945
01:35:44,979 --> 01:35:42,949
just go to Amazon and type in that

1946
01:35:46,810 --> 01:35:44,989
Timothy a definitely look for my photo

1947
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in my top hat and you all have a

1948
01:35:50,500 --> 01:35:49,129
wonderful week in Milwaukee and next

1949
01:35:53,350 --> 01:35:50,510
weekend we'll have some great guests

1950
01:35:59,929 --> 01:35:53,360
coming up at the future including Calvin

1951
01:36:06,169 --> 01:36:02,270
you've been listening to exploring the

1952
01:36:07,029 --> 01:36:06,179
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1953
01:36:09,890 --> 01:36:07,039
Swartz

1954
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1955
01:36:14,839 --> 01:36:12,809
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1956
01:36:18,709 --> 01:36:14,849
the truly bizarre and totally

1957
01:36:21,189 --> 01:36:18,719
unexplained with you as their cold

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Thursday nights at 7:00 p.m. Pacific

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01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:25,710
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01:36:29,340 --> 01:36:26,530
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1961
01:36:32,790 --> 01:36:29,350
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1962
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:32,800
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